Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

I want to see some lower struts

A fellow ankle fetishist, at last.

The rack in the rose is rated to an incredible 5 kilos. It's almost a really cool design, the outer part can be taken off. But it looks silly with all that wide alu tubing.

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Really sorry about the rack chat btw.

I run 46/30 with 11-32 on my atb.

Hmm, it still makes me think it's just a glorified version of this

Doesn't rotate with the steering like the handlebar one does.

Which means you can't turn if there's anything taller than the handlebars in it.

But it also means weight doesn't influence the steering as much

... but can still turn.

Sure. If the load is too tall.

I've found that on my Douze, with my kid up front fouling handlebar height, it never was really a problem because I turned by leaning much more than by producing an angle of the steerer. But that might be down to the bike, load, speed etc.

Kind of similar to the racks clamped to the headtube on Kronans and some old dutch bikes.

How does the outer stay in place securely?

You could barspin that with a tombstone on the rack .

Looks like it just slides on. Interesting.
Will see if they have one in the Berlin store when I go past.
https://www.rosebikes.de/rose-hobo-rack-frontgepaecktraeger-2720038

It must be bolted onto those eyelets underneath.

I want to see some lower struts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x80BrYhxmgU

I turned by leaning

Never lean

Yep. Comprehensively screwed together, just like my humerus ATM.

This is better than the guy telling people to kill themselves.

Nope. Everyone should definitely kill themselves, at least once.

Is it even a compromise? The speed-vs-comfort thing is always invoked, but is there actual data against Heine's thing? Or is it just habit and ride-what-you-have (which is fine)?

Heine's tests aren't perfect, but they seem pretty good? I only saw the figures available on the website, but two limitations come to mind: there might be a ceiling effect to their tyres, i.e., all compass tyres are just really good and it doesn't matter which you ride, whereas a gravelking would perform differently between sizes. Or, the effect size of interest was not determined; there may be a non-trivial difference between tyre sizes, but the tests aren't sensitive enough.

Sorry I was being a little factitious, I don't really know much about Jan other than his love of wide tyres (which i share).

I personally love Sawtooths in 42 for my bike, which is 85 road 15 UK 'gravel'.

Everytime I'm on the road though and I hit potholes and lumps and cracks etc, I'm pretty glad I'm not on anything thinner.

See loads of roadies in the south downs near me still on 23s and it makes me shudder!

Everytime I'm on the road though and I hit potholes and lumps and cracks etc, I'm pretty glad I'm not on anything thinner.

I think this makes it for me too, although personal preferences are totally fine. E.g., a friend that's been audaxing every weekend for years now swears by his 23c. My biggest tour was on the same size, but now that I switched to 42, even 30 is a pain in the ass.