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True doesn't negate dog attacks in the domestic environment.
Who knew setting policy was so difficult?

I'd like to be able to send a sample of dog shit from the pavement to a lab where the DNA of the producing dog is identified, traced and the dog confiscated from the owner for 1 week on first offence, 2 weeks on second, 4 weeks on third etc.

Why not send the lot and ask them to forward to the registered keeper?

Not sure about this. We got a fine posted on our car because the transit cop couldn’t tell a D from a B.

I’m in Cairns at the moment, and a couple of days ago had stopped on the street to pump my tyre up. I’d leant tbe bike against a lamp post and was standing on a suburban pavement, going about my business.

Brown chap crosses the street to walk past me and the big dog in the garden behind me abruptly went nuts- I’d not noticed it before, presumably it had just been doing general dog things.

But now it was on its hind legs, head over the top of the fence barking furiously at the chap as he walked past. When he turned the corner it stopped again.

Must be genetic.

In Singapore if you let any dog off the leash anywhere but a government dog park it’s a fine, keep doing it and the dog is seized and destroyed, plus escalating punishment which can involve being caned.

Certain breeds (and any dog that shows a tendency toward being bitey) must be muzzled at all times when outside the house.

Dogs cost a lot, the majority are imported from the UK, NI or Australia- allegedly. Off the books puppy mills are far from uncommon, and “the mother is overseas” is a great way of heading off questions.

Dog licensing is mandatory, as I posted previously 80% of the population are only allowed to choose dog breeds from a list, and if you are in the 20% in private accommodation you have a long list of banned breeds, but you can have a Labrador or a Dalmatian, say.

Most large dogs that I see are tubby because it’s hard to exercise dogs here, where it’s normally 30 degrees and very humid, and you can only allow your dog to run if you can run with it.

If you as a citizen (might be resident, not sure) feel intimidated by a dog you can report it, the police will track the owners down and issue a muzzle order. Don’t obey and it’s fines and eventual destruction of the dog.

Presumably if you don’t clear up after your dog they fire it into the sun.

I feel sorry for dogs here. I have wanted a dog for forty years but have never had one, but I don’t think SG is the best place to start.

Admittedly it’s tiring barking at brown people myself, but I’ll have to keep doing it until I can subconsciously train an extension of my personality to do it for me.

I have a strong opinion on this, worked with animal rescue as a volunteer back in my country and seen some real shit that your regular dog owner imagine exists even in this world, unfortunately.

Dogs are domesticated animals by Humans.
That means Humans, being the one in control/dominant of the dog and not the otherway around EVER, should have responsability and capability to do so correctly, accordingly to the dog they have, which differs from breed to breed due to genetics, this includes psychological traits, physical needs for exercise to respond to their NATURE etc.

That requires different capabilities and skills/atributes as owner in order to keep the dog domesticated and in peace within himself, the enviroment around that Human/owner brought the dog to.

...Otherwise we will start to give a so called "Dangerous dog" to old people to keep them safe? NO!
Because requires a set of skills and capabilities, that in abscense, would represent risk to the people around due to inability to control or educate from puppies.

How do we know that the person/owner has even the mental capacity to even behave himself or has the right concepts/skills to own a dog.
You can really induce trauma/etc due to a wrong education given to the dog, also depression, repressed nature, rage, fear, all sorts.

We see so many times in the street even "small" things between owners and their pets doing complete irresponsable things with them and completely unaware that that is even a representation of risk for everyone incluiding the dog.

In many Animals/breeds unfortunately are seen as semi-object of adornance, swag to satisfy some sort of trend/aesthetic that so many people are seeking or to match some celebrity or whatever.

(As an example, We just need to look at the Brachycephalic dogs, who realistic shouln't really exist or breed because they were created by Humans for swag as simbol of power, clinically they suffer A LOT due to this modified cross-genetics, and the owner who acquires them don't think about this stuff but instead wants to satisfy only themselfes/selfishness acquisition)
Personally I find this acquisitions of breeds based on looks disgusting and inHumane.)
I am not saying we should put down the dogs that exist right now obvs, but limit their future reproduction to avoid animal suffering, and also owners/families suffering as consequence too.
Same as mentioned by someone before, some breeds should exist in certain parts of the world due to climatic conditions - THIS IS inhumane. I hate when people say "ah but he/she is use to it" NOT TRUE!!!!!!!
Try to go to Galciar or even hang in any part of UK in the Winter without clothes mate!
Who says Winter, says hot climates, ofc.

Is like you would want to adopt a dwarf child because woul be "cool"?
Is the same shit, but paid, and breed to sell and people profiting with it. - Why is that different?

I think some breeds shouldn't be allowed at all, specially the ones developed to have a certain look or physical/mental atribuition.
Dogs should choose owners and vice versa based on affinity, lifestyle, comtability in many fronts and of course everyone who owns a animal should have training and competece test AND continuous monitoring of both dog and owner to check if still capable to do so.

untill then, people/animals will get killed, injured because someone flicked the money at someone as if they buying a car or something.

Sad, very sad.

(and sorry - not sorry - for long text and for my English not being the best but I am not British native)

When i finally got my own place, i was living alone and had always wanted a dog. It took me about 3 months research to decide which breed would be viable for my area, lifestyle and dog training abilities. I eventually got a black lab, a big flat headed moron whose only contribution to home security would be showing the burglars his ball and waiting to be stroked. The big idiot was a dumb as a box of rocks, would eat absolutely anything and was the best doggo a man could have.
I spent months training him from a pup. He was house trained, obedience trained and generally a good dog. I would walk him on lead to the local green or wood then he would go off lead at heel. Lead back on if dogs, kids or other folk around cos he was trained but no dogs perfect and i took the responsibility of owning him seriously. I would regularly see a OAP being walked by her lab in the park and she on multiple occasions asked why hers pulled like a train while dopey the wonder dog placidly walked alongside whoever held his lead "training and treats" would be the flippant answer but in reality it was hours learning before i even collected my dog. I strongly believe licensing should be introduced if it could be made to work with a test to prove competency before granting said license, retesting or inspections on welfare and training too. Until we can get the idea across that owning a dog is a real responsibility you have to take seriously we will continue to have status symbol dogs being procured by idiots who don't understand or care about the ramifications.

The part I don't know is why people feel they need to defend an obviously problematic dog breed against all available evidence

See: motorists

Singapore is an authoritarian republic though, I don't think most people here want to live in an authoritarian republic.

(Not necessarily including myself in this, I love rules and despair at the lack of enforcement of existing laws in the UK).

Or the American gun debate.

Dogs don't bite people, people bite people?

Aussies love it. Then again…

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I thought some context would potentially be interesting.

I’m not saying that I necessarily approve of the way SG does things, but violent dog attacks is not something I am at all concerned about here.

It was and wasn't meant to sound like a dig. Just politically getting the British public to swallow anything approaching that would be, well, nope.

I don't think most people here want to live in an authoritarian republic.

And yet we still have a Tory government. Though not a republic.

I'd like a little (lot) more enforcement though, I know that's not the same as authoritarianism though. And that's coming from a centrist-dad-libtard like myself.

As a nation of dog lovers, we forget that - sometimes - dogs are just dickheads.

As a nation of dog lovers

This is how the British see themselves, but they're more a nation of people who love owning dogs.

Like when people say they're 'animal lovers' but still eat a lot of them and turn a blind eye to mistreatment etc.

What they mean is they like owning a pet.

There's a type of pet owner who loves not the pet but the ideal friend/child/partner they project onto them. The animal can suffer quite badly, unnoticed, in the process. Finding emotional support in the pet isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is if it's done that way.

Exactly that, that is a responsible way not rushed,well thought. Sensible.
Well-done mate!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66256193