Cargo Bikes

I don't think they're necessarily intended to be a direct replacement for a car/van. I've got a friend who works for VOK, who make something very similar. The people/companies who buy those buy them as a cargo cycle that's more accessible/comfortable/easier to ride than a 2 wheeled equivalent, such as a Bullitt or an Urban Arrow. The people that ride them generally aren't "cyclists" but people who ride bikes if that makes sense. They don't want to spend all day trying to balance something that weighs 200+kg in the rain.
Obviously more traditional cargo bikes in themselves are a replacement for a car/van...

interested either serviced or as-is!

I'll keep you updated! One of our mechanics has his eye on it and there's already been some interest via DM. I'll get in touch if nothing comes of that though.

Good points. I’m not sure what questions it’s answering, it’s not as nimble and quick as a cargo bike/trike, and it lacks the range and capacity of a van.

It’s worst offence as far as I’m concerned is the windscreen; it completely blocked the lovely breeze I need to dry my dripping face in this heat!

The battery also couldn’t hack a full days work. Colin Chapman was right, light and simple always wins.

Yes I’m sure they’ve worked out their use-cases, would be interesting to see from their POV what they are

Cheers. What's so bad about enviolo?

Noted re S10 reco though.

What's so bad about enviolo?

Read this thread

Fair

Seem fine for causal use.

Maybe when you start lugging 100kg of cargo every day they give up the ghost a bit quicker than an Alfine or whatever.

I got those too. Bike stops, not dead, reasonably priced.

Bike stops, not dead

Sounds boring

Anyone know where to find a set of mudguards for a 26/20” bike with at least 60mm width?
Tryin to avoid buying to separate sets and thought some cargo bike manufacturers would sell kits but can’t seem to find any.

I think best bet is finding dealer of any cargo bikes that use those wheel sizes and see if they have some or can order in.

https://freshtripe.co.uk/velo-orange-cargo-bike-mudguards/

My Urban Arrow came with an Enviolo. First one lasted about 9 months, second was better (but not much). They come with a 2yr warranty. Now on the 4th one since 2019 (not under warranty). It's the latest HD version so I'm hoping it's better ... time will tell. I was prepared to fork out for a Rohloff but it was going to mean being without my work-bike for too long so it's fingers crossed

Also not convinced. Zedify got a bunch of them a year or two back and snapped all the frames multiple times, think they've given up with thrm tbh.

They are large than a conventional cargo, can't take much more volume, only rated to same weight category, same motor category so much slower in real life, don't fit into uk infrastructure and can't filter between cars. Not quite worst of all worlds as they do have a purpose, but cyclus maximus trikes I think do the same job better for less, just don't have rider weather protection. Not reliable yet, mostly frame and suspension component failures. And £14k+

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That one I post a pic of has a load of polystyrene trim, which is light and mouldable and can be replaced cheaply but with the best will in the world that's going to last about a month in a woking environment, I can see bits of that being shed all over town

Excited to be upgrading my old whip to this Bullitt which is flippin whippet in comparison. Thanks @etcdaman

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Any chance of getting the old whip back to its original forum owner? (me)

Yes quite possibly!

Caveats:

1. There’s a couple of legacy dibs
   
2. It’ll take me a little while to get the Bullit sorted
   
3. It now resides in Margate
   

Does anyone own and tern cargo e bike and care to share any issues you’ve found? Reviews are all positive, I can get it on bike to work so it’s similar total price to mycle equivalent.
Will it work for 6foot4 person?
What bag/ basket combos do you like?

Bullit servicing - rear wheel, and just checking over. I live in SE26. Who is capable / has space?

Could really do with dropping off on a Thursday to get back Friday lunch.

I am the same height and tested one. The new ones have very slack seat tubes which is good for tall people as it means you can stretch out.

But the massive downside was that the saddle then encroaches massively in to the load space on the rear, saddle in kids face. I can’t imagine it would have been comfortable for my kids. Would recommend testing one in case you have a different torso/legs ratio.

I’m not planning to carry kids so that might be ok but yeh, I’m hoping to find one local