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How bloody fast do you need to go to turn your car over
Only about 5mph in a high centre-of-gravity car like that. Another reason why SUVs are an active detriment to the roads
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/13/multiple-people-injured-as-car-crashes-into-campsite-in-wales
Probably a self driving car...More seriously is there a way to report how bad this article is?
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Maybe someone complained as it has changed now.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66490869
Not on the bbc though
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Did you edit that, Will? The article that I get from the link is still the same as when trevox posted it.
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Of course I didn't edit it - though you can see the time stamp on the two articles is different so, oddly, the headline seems to have been changed back to 'car'.
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The first version I got was completely different, just mentioning a "vehicle carrying passengers"
I found the original wording somewhere else:
https://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/national/23719632.nine-people-injured-car-veers-off-road-crashes-campsite/
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Does it matter if you actively crash your car? Actively crashing your car would be using your car as a weapon. Which would read attack rather than crash. Objectively a driver is in control of a car, if the driver loses control, the car can crash. Losing control of the car is not in question, the question would be is the driver negligent in their actions. If you were unsure for wording the difference would be "driver crashes" compared to "driver causes crash". The driver always crashes unless they jump out of the vehicle.
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‘Driver crashes car into campsite’ sounds like an act of terror, which might be why they rowed back.
‘Driver loses control of car that crashes into campsite’ is probably the best option but we’re getting into unwieldy headline territory.
I’m all for accurate reporting to ensure drivers are held responsible, but it’s quite complicated to get right so early in the reporting.
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Malicious intent would be "driver rams car into campsite" or "campsite terror as driver attacks".
Not to be too flippant but you wouldn't see "bicycle crashes into picnic" or "rollerskates careen into world cup hopscotch match." The operator of whatever equipment it is would be described, even if the collision was caused because of a mechanical issue or avoiding another obstacle.
It's the dissociation of the driver from any responsibility. Even with the assortment of regulations there are for motor vehicles it seems as if you abide to the minimum standards with little care then you're absolved of responsibility. If a driver goes around a bend at 40mph on a 50mph limit and crashes, it would be a dangerous corner in a car crash.
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^this
And a reminder of an earier post summing this up -
Awful instance. Terrible reporting from BBC
"Father killed by car amid wedding feud - court"
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Dangerous car on the loose...
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'Roads aren't dangerous. Have you ever been attacked by one?'
(In quote marks as not mine.)
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Say 'drivers', not 'cars': it's the people in inside the boxes that do the stuff
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"A car has ended up on its roof..."
https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2022/03/22/plumstead-accident-car-on-roof-at-dangerous-street/?fbclid=IwAR1RRHUXq3UUTCYB2fBd1KcxSMmOAvvsdWneeBbveaNSenyebQcssXRr9zI
This is very near me. Certainly an awkward road to work out who has priority along narrow sections, but all the more reason to take things a lot more slowly than you'd otherwise like to. How bloody fast do you need to go to turn your car over, FFS?!
Absolutely no mention of the driver (besides a comment about no injuries) but the first thing that occurred to me is that someone must have been driving extremely dangerously and shouldn't they be held accountable?