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In Oz, it's so big they just stuck cameras in all the cop cars.
So, there's hidden fixed cameras all over the place (not high viz yellow boxes), there's hidden cameras in all the police cars including the unmarked ones and there's the guys that sit on the side of the road with camera/radar and ping you the old fashioned way (moving locations)
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This. I’ve lived in Leyton for 8 years, and have seen how the roads have become much calmer since the ‘mini Holland’ scheme, 20mph limits and LTNs were phased in.
There are still muppets who feel their masculinity is affronted unless they drive 35 in a 20, especially on Church Road where there are zero cameras or calming measures, and a skip depot with the truck drivers barrelling it down past the school. Could be solved so easily with an average speed zone.
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The problem with average speed cameras is their effectiveness in urban areas with a high density of roads, and complexity of vehicle paths between them, is limited.
Far better in my view is a quantity of movable camera that can be relocated in one of many locations. In situ you can’t tell if the camera is present or not.
The current system of fixed and visible cameras is ridiculous and self-defeating.
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See the Cars Crashing into Buildings thread for examples of people definitely not doing 20mph limit.
In Australia, we went strict on speeding and seems to have worked quite well in bringing down crashes. I can't believe they don't have the same speed camera tech in this country.
Conclusion from one study:
"Evaluation results estimated a 27.7% statistically significant reduction (p=0.016) in all casualty crashes associated with fixed speed camera installations. A corresponding 30.2% reduction in fatal and serious injury crashes was estimated however, this was not statistically significantly different from the estimate for all casualty crashes combined, suggesting the cameras are associated with uniform crash reduction effects across all crash severity levels. Absolute crash savings associated with the Hume Freeway point to point camera system were much greater than those estimated on the Geelong Rd spot speed camera network with annual estimated reductions of 21 and 6.8 casualty crashes
respectively associated with the cameras. This reflects the greater crash population covered by the point to point system compared to spot speed cameras, with the Hume Freeway system covering nearly 80km of road across the four enforced sections. In contrast the Geelong Rd camera system effectively covers a total of 10km of road length across the 5 camera installations evaluated which represents about 20% of the total road length. Despite this, the Geelong Rd cameras appear to be well placed covering around 37% of the total crash population."
https://www.vic.gov.au/road-safety-camera-statistics