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“ if parliament gets refurbed ...”
or goes up in smoke ( like it ought to ) or as that pub in West Midlands did .... I’m sure they’ve all got some developer mates !

Yes, I did. But I expect everyone has me on ignore.

This Florida resident is The Armed Cyclist. It says so on his jersey. He has a Glock and 36 lights. And rides on the interstates for some reason. https://road.cc/content/news/florida-man-armed-cyclist-jersey-sparks-debate-303035

>>>>> functional, not porn, not anti

This is where the forum will be next year.

Florida man…

(I thought it was @sonofthewinds at first)

Do we need a thread about defensive weapons? I have suggestions.

Your a defensive weapon.

;)

Loving the new Tory immigration policy.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/tory-mp-lee-andersons-f-off-back-to-france-comment-shows-govt-trying-to-distract-from-failings-says-labours-yvette-cooper-12936590

Could they sink any lower?

Could they sink any lower?

If you look at historical treatment of displaced people, then yes. There is plenty of scope to do worse things.

One of the many things I hate about this is the way it makes a false assumption and gets away with it.

Two binary choices:
A. Be housed on a barge.
B. Fuck off back to France.

What about,oh idk, processing claims faster so you can either allow people to stay or remove them? You never know it might free up existing space so you don't need barges.

Better still put the families in housing and get them jobs.

Two binary choices:

A. Be housed on a barge.
B. Fuck off back to France.

Rwanda? Ascension Island?

I mean idk what to say 🤷‍♂️ it seems baffling to me that there is no way to create short term work permits which allow them to earn money.

Other than "taking our jobs" I don't see what objection there is. They've already decided that making it to the UK is worth it.

C. Let them work, but then I know this is gonna happen: Because of them wages don't go up. See also Brexit.

That's the spiel when they can work. Not that the UK has a good track record of funding investigations into underpayment or strengthening laws (hi Labour, please sort this once/if you get in power) but you can maybe work around that and have some sort of extra tax to fund temp housing, idk.

I really don't see how all this cannot be worked out if we can talk like Mature Adults* in citizen panels rather than stupid news headlines being policy / us vs them political tribalism.

*maybe the issue ;)

They should be allowed to work as they are human beings, the boredom sucks. Then the living allowance is too low. Why not let them study as well and they can fund that with work.

But don't see them just as worker units, even Labour has this tendency of "immigration is just to generate £ for the UK..."

Option C :
Coming soon to GB News, GB Battle Royal. Four members of BNP armed with a selection of classic British weaponry by Nigel Farage hunt down 200 people who came over on small boats on Salisbury Plains.

If the migrants survive 48 hours they get to go on the barge and be shouted at by angry right wing locals.

This reminds me that I used to want to deportrelocate all the cunts that would try and beat us up on Friday and Saturday nights to the isle of wight, sponsor it by strongbow, and then televised to cover the cost.

So I can empathise with your idea, even if I don't approve.

The Mail is doing a predictably good job of monstering Carly Taylor, the owner of the pile of bricks which used to be the Crooked House. She's a 34 year old 'jetsetter' and former beautician who, according to a relative, "thinks she is better than everyone else since she married into money". "A second person who knows Mrs Taylor said she 'loved shopping for designer handbags' and had 'dozens of them'." The other papers clearly haven't sent anyone to snoop into her life. You can always rely on the Mail to put the most money into investigating their targets. It's been a very successful business model for them.

Surely a shortsighted model to alienate your target readership.

It's worth sacrificing one of them if the others are fascinated by the slaughter.

What about,oh idk, processing claims faster so you can either allow people to stay or remove them?

The problem with this from the government’s perspective is that most claims get through, and deportation is expensive, and the traffickers still make their cash. To the govt. it’s lose lose. They will tell you that even the bogus or marginal claims get through. Their whole plan rests on making the time between arrival and processing so awful that folks will be deterred from ever crossing the channel.

If you did that though the costs of housing immigrants would go down so it would be much more difficult to justify all the current stuff on a financial basis.

The issue with this is they need to make our asylum system worse than being tortured and killed.

At least worse than every other viable, prosperous country that’s travelled through that won’t torture and kill them and / or is better than where they originated. Race to the bottom type stuff.

The govt. will tell you that a lot of folks are not being tortured or killed; they want a better life and see entry to Europe as a means of achieving it, and that this has generated a criminal infrastructure at scale that is comfortable with deaths at sea.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2023/aug/09/steve-bell-on-lee-anderson-and-the-bibby-stockholm-barge-cartoon

Balanced, fair and well considered first comment to Steve Bell's excellent recent cartoon