• Not the average Joe...a former amateur racer friend who does track days in Spain with some very quick people. They mostly have S1000 or Panigale and they all switch off the electronics.

    I've ridden quite a few sports bikes on the track (used to race endurance with the above friend) but my road bikes have mostly been BMs with ABS2. I've had Aprilias and a KTM as road bikes, but never had problems with their ABS, so I don't know anything about it!

  • Your mate does not count as an average Joe.

    Know that the race schools like Ron haslam and Cali all teach braking first on non abs bikes. But that was a while ago, so things have changed.

    Does the panigale have the ECU that can tell which race track it is on. Hence set the engine up for the track? Or is that just the desmo or was it publicity rubbish?

    Oh and wasn't there some contraversy about some super race bikes having ECU traction control.... remember that was the bikes sounded like they were misfiring coming out of bends.

    Am just nattering.

  • The Moto GP people seem to be in the habit of sliding at both ends, so presumably their ABS is switched off! Maybe they switch it on in the rain? I have no idea. Hopelessly out of touch. But learning at the track without ABS is a must, otherwise you'll never know what the tyres can do. There used to be a course at the Nurburgring for road bikes where they'd make you switch off your ABS and brake until your front tyre slid. Only 20 mph or so....nobody dropped their bike.

    No idea about Panigales. Never ridden one and not likely to. Am not rich or fit enough for the track day in Spain! They book the track and hotel for a long weekend. Bikes are trucked there, riders fly. Professional technicians and tyre fitters. People with two bikes and loads of wheels. Everyone doing 190 on the straight. Lapping until they've had enough. Then they go to the hotel pool for beers. Not like a British track day where you only ride for one session in three, then somebody crashes so your session is cut short and you only do 10 laps all day. Then you ride home and it rains.

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