• We were due to get Virgin M250 installed today, but I think the engineer turned up and had a look at the front garden and then fucked off without speaking to me, and delayed the install date by 2 weeks as they need to dig a trench for the fibre cable. The front garden is owned by our upstairs neighbours and we have access rights to our front door so we'd have to negotiate that with them

    Don't think 5G is an option as we've got chunky stone walls and the signal is terrible except right in the window

    So it seems like if we want fibre (inevitable within 5-10 years?) at some point someone is going to have to dig up the front garden.

    It looks like OpenReach have done the street around the corner but not ours. Our neighbour (on the corner with the other street) can get gigabit through OpenReach but we can't. My understanding is that Virgin have their own infrastructure and everyone else uses OpenReach, is that right? So if we want to avoid digging up the garden twice, my thinking would be we just stick with shitty 60Mbit and wait til OpenReach have got to our street as we'll have a much greater choice of providers? Do (e.g.) Hyperoptic, CityFibre, etc. have their own infrastructure or are they on OpenReach as well?

  • Community Fibre and Hyperoptic can both just run the fibre to your house from the nearest telegraph pole, assuming you already have one for the Openreach VDSL.

    No idea if either are useful for you, but they don't have to dig anything up (except perhaps to reach the pole in the first place)

  • My understanding is that Virgin have their own infrastructure and everyone else uses OpenReach, is that right?

    Nope, at least CF and Hyperoptic from that list have their own networks, although my understanding is that CF have entirely their own network while Hyperoptic still use at least some Openreach infra behind the scenes.

    FWIW current fibre cables are thinner than the copper cable going though your neighbour's tree and are fitted with a spring loaded coil of extra cable on the house end - a bit like a retractable dog lead - so I doubt running it through the tree would be an issue.

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