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The whole coutts natwest farage thing seems to be a massive deadcat / distraction, doesn't it.

Ftfy

There are degrees of animal abuse, some of which are acceptable?

I just want the "media" to just stop giving him the oxygen of publicity. I really don't give a shit about private banking travails. He's all over every outlet, gets on Newsnight constantly and has his own sodding TV show.

We have so much bigger things to worry about that the tedious goings on of a man who has failed to become an MP 6 times, one time losing to a man who was dressed as a dolphin. He's pretty much an irrelevance.

We're in the biggest cost of living crisis for 70 years, the biggest tax burden since WW2, the government doesn't govern as its only interested in stoking culture wars and division to misdirect people from their major inadequacies and the opposition are afraid of their own shadows.

On top of that, the whole of the media seem to be afraid of just saying that Brexit is shit, everyone was lied to and we're all out of pocket because of it.

Exactly. Grinds my gears. Fucking grifting cunt.

There are degrees of animal abuse, some of which are acceptable?

I'm not sure giving a dog leftovers or a hat is really animal abuse, but if it is, it's not as bad as drugging a bull and then repeatedly stabbing it in front of a baying crowd for "entertainment" until it slowly dies, so yeah.

Personally, I don't think dogs should be bred to satisfy a group of people who think the word "cockapoo" is funny

But then they're the ones that have to pick up shit with their hands for the rest of its miserable life, so...

^^^ this.

So your argument is that it's not ok to offer an opinion on what constitutes praise/blame-worthy behaviour, unless one is entirely blameless oneself.

But you're suggesting snotty is not entitled to offer such an opinion, implying something they did is blame-worthy, which means you're doing exactly the thing you complained about.

As am I, because I'm pointing out your bad behaviour in implying snotty's bad behaviour disqualifies their opinion that watching bullfighting is bad behaviour. Which it obviously fucking is. Claiming that torturing animals for entertainment is not great isn't really that controversial.

I personally hate the idea of dressing pets up. It annoys me and wouldn't do it myself.
I'm don't people breeding their own dogs/cats.
I dislike the purebreeding crowd, especially those who breed debilitating features in to their dogs (e.g. sloping backs, snub noses etc).
Feeding the odd scrap is not too bad, but a whole diet of just "human" food is not great.

I'm married to a vet and don't eat meat.

who then put it in a bag, only to tie it to a tree or chuck on a fence.

Bit harsh to do that to a dog...

gets on Newsnight constantly and has his own sodding TV show.

I stopped watching Newsnight after it basically became his own TV show.

Someone Spanish told me Catalonia banning bullfighting was more about them solidifying their image as a separate region.

How does he continually turn the news cycle around to himself

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Well he was gifted this one. I can't quite believe how badly Rose fucked up. I guess it's a salutary lesson that however odious the person, you let it cloud your professional judgement or application of rules at your absolute peril.

Long time since I declined an irregular French verb.
Nous n'aurons jamais dû brexit.
(40+ years on attempt at 'We should never have brexitted').

+1

Standing up for bullfighting in the 21st century. Weird choice of hill to die on.

It would be tragic if Alexander Mckellar and his brother Robert Mckellar were shanked to death in prison if they're convicted. Tragic.

Jesús fucking Christ. That's horrific. And I doubt will be punished appropriately.

There are degrees of animal abuse, some of which you're ok with, some of which you aren't?

I'm not OK with any animal abuse really, but I'm not sure why you've chosen to focus on that, trying to score some points by the look of it.

I haven't claimed abusing animals for entertainment is great.

What I am claiming is that self-righteous finger-pointing is bollocks.

Don't be shy, instead of making some oblique comment, point your finger directly.

What I am claiming is that self-righteous finger-pointing is bollocks.

TBF, what happened is you got all self righteous and pointed fingers at someone because they said that someone else should be ashamed for supporting bull fighting, which isn't a particularly controversial thing to say and wasn't said in a particularly bad way, I got the impression that the person who went to watch it may already feel a bit of shame. You then started a bunch of weird strawman arguements about how people can't point out bad things unless they either have never done bad things or they go out and point out every bad thing that's mildly related to this one in real life. If you hadn't done any of this I imagine the ashamed comment would've been the end of it and we'd be free a few pages of self righteous bollocks.

Because it's ridiculous to compare using pets as child substitutes (dressing them up, feeding them human food, carrying them around) to an old geezer giving his dog, the dog-end of his bag of chips/pork scratchings.