Bob Jackson Cycles

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thank you v. much for this

All the feedback above is appreciated and understood - pretty much as expected. That's way too expensive vs that's a really fair price for a frame hand built in the UK. The frames at the old prices weren't viable, we've tried our best to price the frames fairly.

Based on feedback we've decided to offer custom geometries, and full custom design (brake type, wheel size, sloped top tubes, beltdrive and hub gear options etc) on a price on application basis.

In terms of disc road, gravel etc - it's certainly something we're open to building but there are plenty of options in the market for this, if anything we felt there was a lack of options for a quality, classic steel frame. It may be a limited market, but we're a small business. If we can build some special bikes for people that appreciate and enjoy them - then we'll be happy.

Our first frame since the relaunch is currently in paint, here's a link to our Instagram and I've attached a couple of images to the post for those that don't use Instagram.

Thanks everyone for the feedback, we've got a few orders in and I'll aim to share progress as we go.

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For one of these standard framesets an All-road / Rough Stuff/ Touring 650B / 29er (dep on frame size) could be interesting IMO. Maybe with a signature fork crown to stand out, disc & canti posts, huge clearances, zits for trad racks and new style bikepacking gubbins. To limit it to Road, Track, Audax seems like a bunch of very similar bikes, really.

Thinking the same and it's certainly something we could build. With OTP offerings from Surly, Brother, Thorn and then your Crusts etc fitting this brief - is there actually a demand for this kind of build? As mentioned above based on the feedback we're looking at building "off menu" so hopefully we'll get a request in for something along these lines - we would enjoy building it.

Yorkshire has been confirmed as the right side of the Pennines, Lancashire is on the left.

True, but west is the best.

Yorkshire has been confirmed as the right side of the Pennines, Lancashire is on the left.

You lot are still bitter about losing the War of the Roses. Get over it.

First, just to reiterate: bravo for saving the BJ name and all the historic good vibes it has.

Glad you’re considering some more burly stuff. It’s what people want. Maybe: To differentiate from Surly > brother > crust etc, maybe get a proper nice HIP & RAD special frame component, like made by Ted James, like a new design of disc ends, yolk, monostay or fork bend, something that makes it special and yours and unique. And something people want. Batch a shedload of em and bash out a modern classic.

For instance… I for one hate the look of most flat mount rocker ends and how they make the back end / seat stays look weird, sort of bent 3/4 of the way to the wheel. I really don’t want a bike with those, ever. Why can’t ends look proper any more? Like a nice elegant triangular end, the wheel at the apex of where the line of the stays meet. A socketed dropout (well, thru axle hole then) in the old style where the stays stay straight all the way down, could have an extended NDS chainstay socket with flat mounts afore it. Why do they have to look like they do these days? Makes the bike look all flattened at the end. Is it just a trend? Maybe I’m missing something (not a framebuilder!). I’d be thinking about something around there. Or yolks or monostay designs. Like the early 90s Trek MTB Unicrown seat cluster. Something no-one’s doing.

I look forward to seeing more, and how this semi-custom idea will develop. Best of luck with it. 🙏🏼

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With OTP offerings from Surly, Brother, Thorn and then your Crusts etc fitting this brief - is there actually a demand for this kind of build?

I think there must be, presuming you'd still do it with lugs the target market wouldn't necessarily overlap entirely with Surly/Brother etc.

Separate disc and canti versions Shirley? Nobody wants vestigial rim brake posts when they're running discs do they?!

@Skülly it's just to have room to get the caliper in no? I've modded some frames putting flat mount bosses in the chainstays and it can be tighter than a mouses ear getting the caliper in there. Low mount IS/post was even worse.

Do agree on the little detail to set the frame apart, the BJ (fnar fnar) top eyes are nice, some panto'd lugs would be sweet.

First build is done

Came together nicely, we're now on with the next one.

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That's really lovely! Great to see BJ still going

I'm not a fan of all those red/white stripes everywhere

Liking this!

Make sure you order yours without the stripes? 👍

The customer designed the paint based on an old Bob Jackson jersey of his, this was what we worked from.

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Well you’ve dropped a bollock there because they’ve put track ends on the drawing and you’ve built them a beautiful geared bike instead ;)

As for my 2p to what people might want it feels like there’s definitely a market for UK made steel road/gravel/touring/adventure bike with decent tyre clearance, rack and guard mounts etc. and lugged would definitely be a bonus. If you’re buying a uk made steel bike, a heritage aesthetic would fit the bill IMO.

You mention Surly, Brother, Crust and Thorn.
To me Bob Jackson is separate from all of those.
Surly is a bit boring, and American. They’re great bikes but a bit uninspiring. Crust are more interesting but American, brother are great but they’re Taiwan made. Thorn are great, but they’re not the most beautiful.

If I wanted a UK made frame, a nice lugged gravel bike of sorts, BJ would fit that remit perfectly.

This with a derailleur hanger and long reach brakes would be rad. Or with discs and more tyre clearance.

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all that blue & yellow looks well Leeds United!

Selling my Bob Jackson 57cm here:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/388571/#comment17061809

+1

+2 (for derailleur and long reach brakes). Nobody* is making that with a steel fork

*that I can think of right now

Refreshers

All Leeds aren't we!

We are able to offer full custom, so that's certainly possible.

We're just about to start on an 853 Fleur lugged 57mm drop caliper/35mm tyre Audax/"Gravel Light" F&F which we're looking forward to.

Somehow have never taken any decent photos of this even though I've had it over a year.
Stiffer wheels and being able to fit mudguards at the same time as those 32s and it'd be perfect imo.

Will be back to derail with photos next time it's cleaned.

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