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i just had a conversation with my dad about this who started off by saying the ulez thing was a big problem of Sadiq's creation.
I suggested that it's about similar [driving dilapidated diesel vehicles which spew crap into that air] to the situation with water companies pouring sewage into rivers and seas (ie an attempt to reduce externalising costs /polluter doesn't pay) . He's big into wild swimming so this immediately changed his mind to the ulez expansion being a good thing :)
the odd part of it is that he runs a small business which has invested quite abit over the last few years in order to become ulez compliant so he's already on the right side of it but initially favoured the brethren of uxbridge...
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In 2010 when I still lived in Central London I was considering emissions when I bought my car purely for economic reasons - parking permit cost, tax, expectations of congestion charge pricing being linked to emissions, etc. In 2018, now outside of the proposed ULEZ zone, ULEZ compliance was on the check list for our car. I'm not a fucking soothsayer or genius.
Johnson introduced this in 2015.
Pretty sure last time I checked there are cars as old as 2002 which are compliant. Maybe not a Transit - or more to the point for most of the whingers, a fash German barge with the sort of fuel economy and low tax they want - but cars for driving? There are loads.
A mate in Putney referenced his neighbour with an old landy who basically "can't" drive it anymore due to the cost - sorry mate if you want to farmer cozplay in Putney at the expense of peoples health then cough up for the privilege. A family friend's mate apparently can't drive in a certain direction from his house "without getting hit" - tenner says he just doesn't want to give up his green diesel German barge for something less prestigious. Again suck a dick.
The whole thing has been such a long time coming that putting aside every other argument, simply on an organisational level, I cannot muster up any sympathy for anyone affected.
Oh and there is a fucking scrappage scheme for those genuinely in need. And even though intrest rates are up, guess what? You can still cheaply finance vehicles.
hugo7
Also just as a csb and because I've got no one else to relay it to... I had a long dinner with my dad who was bemoaning the polarisation of politics, and essentially that you can't debate rationally with people anymore.
We came on to the topic of ULEZ, and he argued that given that we know that these emissions kill people then anyone who was against it was a murderer. But apparently people get upset when you tell them that.