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  • Also just as a csb and because I've got no one else to relay it to... I had a long dinner with my dad who was bemoaning the polarisation of politics, and essentially that you can't debate rationally with people anymore.

    We came on to the topic of ULEZ, and he argued that given that we know that these emissions kill people then anyone who was against it was a murderer. But apparently people get upset when you tell them that.

  • i just had a conversation with my dad about this who started off by saying the ulez thing was a big problem of Sadiq's creation.

    I suggested that it's about similar [driving dilapidated diesel vehicles which spew crap into that air] to the situation with water companies pouring sewage into rivers and seas (ie an attempt to reduce externalising costs /polluter doesn't pay) . He's big into wild swimming so this immediately changed his mind to the ulez expansion being a good thing :)

    the odd part of it is that he runs a small business which has invested quite abit over the last few years in order to become ulez compliant so he's already on the right side of it but initially favoured the brethren of uxbridge...

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