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  • The progress is to be totally expected. What I find interesting is you take all the people that cycle in the world, and then you find all the ones that are the very best, and then even in that tiny 0.00001 percentile, there is still one guy who can blow those others away.

    To be absolutely clear, I in no way think V-man is doping and find that chat boring. I just find it fascinating that at the very pointy end you still have these outliers.

    Messi is the better example given the sheer number of people in the world that play football so I’d hypothesise it’s much harder to make it as a footballer. Yet he could still run rings round the very best athletes in the sport.

    (Shit just realised the convo has moved on and I hadn’t refreshed)

  • Messi had years of HGH injections for a diagnosed growth hormone disorder.
    Maybe unrelated to doping, but there isn't much drug testing in football.

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