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  • If you are swing voter who previously voted Conservative, what is Labour offering over Sunak's current cabinet? I am aware they will offer more hopefully nearer an election but currently they are saying its better to offer no hope, than false hope

  • If you are swing voter who previously voted Conservative, what is Labour offering over Sunak's current cabinet?

    A change. Not using culture wars as a distraction. Not saying "STOP THE BOATS". Not painting over children's drawings. Having normal politicians back in power.

    I know it's hard for many people on here to grasp, but most swing voters who've voted Tory in the past aren't the sort of people who'd knife a asylum seekers inflatable. They hate Johnson and think the venial corruption and nastiness needs to go.

  • I don't disagree with wanting to move on from all the things you mention but

    Having normal politicians back in power.
    And
    They hate Johnson and think the venial corruption and nastiness needs to go.

    Is that not what Sunak has the potential to demonstrate between now and the election?

    Lots of that culture wars and migrant stuff is a social media bubble, most people just want to be able to see a doctor or dentist when they need to, good outcomes for thier kids and affordable housing, secure jobs and good living standards. Labour are currently saying we can't offer you any of these as we have to be fiscally conservative. It's probably more fair to say that's more likely to lead to voter apathy than people turning out to vote tory again

    I guess I just find it depressing when we have such bleak politics that there isn't a more optimistic option being proposed

  • This is really interesting to look back on given the way starmer and labour have spoken about migrants, migrant policy, the refugee convention and the boats.

    "Keir Starmer launches illegal migration crackdown to woo Tory voters...
    The Labour leader will outline plans to ‘smash’ criminal gangs which smuggle people to the UK and ‘bring order to the border’".

    I get that people want to have hope but Starmer has shown us who he really is far too many times, sadly.

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