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  • My mistake. I'll get to ordering one of those pixels. šŸ¤Ŗ

  • Random thought - have you tried clearing browsing data?

  • Not sure why you'd need to buy a pixel.

    Surely you can get an iPhone with a bigger screen to mitigate the lost screen real estate.

  • Given it only happens to some iPhone users (it doesn't happen to me). I'd sell the bike phone.

  • Looks like I'm stuck with it forever. What do?

    It's kind of ironic, in that Safari is (or used to be) really against the idea that a page / app or whatever could automatically focus an element.

  • Iā€™ve never seen this on my iPhone so canā€™t troubleshoot much. Have you tried deleting the safari app (long press on app icon) and then re installing it from the App Store?

  • can't remove Safari from iOS, you can only remove the icon from the home screen, but the app is part of the OS
    I have the same thing

    Happens in Safari on iOS
    Doesn't happen in Chrome
    Doesn't happen in Safari on MacOS

    Happens when you click a link to go to a new page
    Doesn't happen when you use forward/back to an already visited page

    It's kind of ironic, in that Safari is (or used to be) really against the idea that a page / app or whatever could automatically focus an element.

    I think that's still the case. There shouldn't be a way to automatically focus, so I'm not sure what's making the forum exhibit the behaviour. Not seen it on any other site or forum

  • Just got my daughter an older iPad, but would like an eye-level stand for her desk and a decent Bluetooth keyboard and mouse for it.

    What are the forum recommendations?

  • My eldest is on the edge of locking their iPhone up, the ā€œyou are locked out be carefulā€ warnings are up and they have an hour to wait now.
    Weā€™re all confused how it got here as the phone was left at home while we were out last night. No one has been trying to get in to it.
    So er yeah.

    What the fuck?
    (I think someone may have been mucking around and isnā€™t owning up)

  • https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204306

    If you know the phone passcode youā€™re fine. If ā€˜someoneā€™ has changed/forgotten the passcode you might need a computer/visit an Apple Store.

  • Yeah - this would be easier if their ipad was charged as wellā€¦.
    Iā€™m just going to upgrade their storage, back up, and then try the phone. I wouldnā€™t be that upset if the phone couldnā€™t be used for a bit tbh.

  • Itā€™s more a case of ā€œhow did this happen then?ā€ Which I donā€™t think Iā€™ll get an answer to. Though the finger is pointing at my youngest.

  • Dunno what happened there, set up iCloud + on the iPad, backed up. Entered passcode slowly. In we go.
    Kids eh?

  • Bit of a weird problem with neighbour's Macbook which also comes back to passwords and kids messing things up...

    It was fine yesterday but it's now saying that the startup disc is encrypted and must be unlocked after her young kids were messing around with it.

    She is putting in her password, but it's looping back round to that screen. She seems to be using the right password, as trying to put in an incorrect password results in the shakey password box thing.

    I've tried everything to get round this - safe mode, verbose, resetting NVRAM and SMC, you name it really - but the same thing keeps happening.

    I can't think of a way forward now which doesn't involve wiping the disc. She would lose some stuff but most is backed up. Is it even worth taking it to a mac specialist? Nobody is going to unlock an encrypted disc for her, right? Although she does clearly have the password.

    Any ideas?

  • Is it worth my dad paying a subscription for icloud?

  • Yes

  • Those pornhubs rack up.

  • Get a family plan, get everyone on it and enjoy a slightly quieter life without parents calling you up asking what the ā€˜out of spaceā€™ messages mean.

  • Cheers all.

    Annoyingly he's the only iPhone.

  • I have this. Cost went up this month but still worth it - I think (I havenā€™t a clue!)

  • According to VB it's not his problem, and it's on Apple to fix it - but LFGSS is the only site where it happens (that I visit), so I'm not entirely certain that Apple gives a shit about it.

    I don't think it's a bug.
    Or rather, it was a bug that it wasn't focusing previously, but Apple were happy with the behaviour - and that bug has now been 'fixed'.

    iOS Safari didn't allow a text box to be focused without user input, which was inconsistent with most other browsers. That was raised as a bug in 2019 but Apple said they were going to keep that behaviour...

    https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195884

    We (Apple) like the current behavior and do not want programmatic focus to bring up the keyboard when you do not have a hardware keyboard attached and the programmatic focus was not invoked in response to a user gesture. Why you may ask...because auto bringing up the software keyboard can be seen as annoying and a distraction to a user (not for your customers, but for everyone not using your app) given that:

    1. We bring up the keyboard, which takes up valuable real estate on screen.
    2. When we intent to bring up the software keyboard we zoom and scroll the page to give a pleasing input experience (or at least we hope it is pleasing; file bugs if not).

    But that changed in recent versions

    https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243416
    https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/pull/2907

    Appreciate this is fairly niche as it seems that it's only @Dammit and me experiencing it (happens on both my iPhone and iPad so I'm fairly surprised nobody else seems to be noticing it). But still. It's annoying.

    @Velocio - is LFGSS trying to give focus to the page number text box when you navigate via a thread link or previous/next page link? If so, does it have to?

  • The HTML for that input is a function of the time when the new forum was built, when there wasn't a standardised way to say "Number keyboard please, browser" and Apple suggested using the regex in the pattern attribute.

    <input type="text" min="1" value="817" max="817" step="1" pattern="\d*" title="Enter the page number to jump to" class="form-control">
    

    I've seen some discussion that this may trigger unexpected behaviour in combination with some personal setting, VPN or something else.

    Nowadays you would use the tel input type. (or the inputmode attribute but Safari - naturally - doesn't support that)

    <input type="tel" min="1" value="817" max="817" step="1" title="Enter the page number to jump to" class="form-control">
    

    Maybe that simple change would solve the problem?
    I cannot reproduce the bug so no point me making a pull request but that's what I would try changing first if I could actually test it.

    There would need to be manual validation of the min and max values as they don't actually apply to tel inputs.

  • Still almost every single page load for me.


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  • As it's not everyone, but (mainly) just you, it cannot be down singly to one of the page code, the device, the browser or the software version. I think we have exhausted that. It must be one of the above in combination with a currently unknown factor.

    Is there anything else about how you browse the forum that is out of the ordinary. Are you using a VPN? What popup blockers do you use? Does it make any difference whether it's browsing via wifi or phone network? Does clearing cookies or clearing the cache make any difference? Try changing any of those things, one at a time, and see what changes.

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