Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

Only an idiot would put a different set of wheels into a bike that's got crap, pulsing or squealing brakes though.

If you're fussy, you could simply swap the pads when you swap the wheels (I have to do this with my TT bike because my training wheels are alu and race wheels carbon and that's way more of a pain than swapping disc pads)

I don't bother though. As I've said, I've had no issues with swapping on the fly and until someone tests this stuff on a test rig and measures the impact, I'm not buying this accelerated wear chatter (pun intended).

You’re spot on with one thing; if the pads is crap, it nothing to replace pads and rotors whether it’s a nightmare with carbon and alu wheels.

Have to write off a carbon wheel that done 200k due to using wrong pads and the braking surface is now glazed, way to write off a 3k wheelset.

Yeah, I'm anal when it comes to the TT bike but the discs, meh. I've killed a set of rotors riding in Wales with no spares but since then I've been pretty good keeping on top of pad replacement to keep the rotors intact.

One thing that might play into this is that when you get the other wheels out they've been gathering dust for a while, i.e. in my garage where the car drives in and out as well.

Then proceeded to brake that dust into the pads the first 20 mins of my ride, et voila, squealing brakes.

So now I always make sure to rub the rotors down with disc brake cleaner when swapping in wheels.

When I just replace pads, it is not uncommon for customers to return saying their braking are not great, once I’ve started quoting both pads and rotors, the number of customers returning plummet massively (same with chain; replace both chain and cassette also reduces this massively rather than just the chain, especially on 11+ speed bicycles).

What is your perspective on this then? It seems like neither outcome is great - if you replace only the pads they aren't happy with the performance, if you replace both they aren't happy with the price.

Dust? You MTB right? Dust shouldn't make them squeal. Blow them (lucky wheels) instead of wiping.

disc brake cleaner

FYI: isopropyl alcohol in bulk is cheaper than the sprays if you're not already using that.

Another option is to run metallic pads all the time anyway. They already squeal so you just get used to the Built-in Pedestrian Warning System™

Also, the waste in this.

Customers are idiots and should be educated on bedding disc brakes in and keeping them clean (no touchy touchy etc).

Yeah. Garage dust just sticks different. No idea why. My guess is because the car goes in and out, but maybe also because it's a non-heated Australian shed sorta number ...

Apologies for breaking up wheel swapping debate, but just converted the grav bike to SS for the rest of summer and it made me very happy.

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non-heated Australian shed

As opposed to what, Canadian heated sheds? Also, Racist. ;)

I reckon it's all in your mind but also it could be a higher quantity of exhaust gases and car brake dust. It could be overspray from other stuff you do in the shed (if you're a WD40 fan, for example).

I would be doing a lot of walking with an SS gravel bike.

As opposed to a German garage that's not just a corro walled contraption

I've been in -18C in Berlin so I can see why you might want a heated garage. You only heat your shed in Australia if your missus has kicked you out and you're living in it. waves at my uncle

You say that but the McMansion a few doors down has a heated garage (and a wine cellar, cinema, pool, etc etc ... I had a peek when they sold ...)

Yes please!

Very smart ... Here I am thinking of doing a ratio conversion and slapping a 51 cassette on mine ...

This is kind of the point... began taking it all a bit too seriously and started killing riding for myself a bit. Always liked the look of single speed, the simple mechanical nature of it, and hoping it will force me to just slow down and cruise a bit.

Yeah this looks fun. Like it.
I'm quite enjoying those Cinturos on my grabbelbeik, but might just be because they're 45c and all squishybouncylololols.

hoping it will force me to just slow down and cruise a bit.

maybe on the flats, but I find myself trying to desperately and hilariously ride up steep technical stuff on SS or fixed off road. Good fun but perhaps not more chill. You may be diff'rent tho.

Yeah but that'll be attached to the house right?

If you're a Proper Farkin' Aussie™ you have a proper fuckin' shed and the only heating should come from the exhaust of your V8 ute or the burning of empty beer cartons.

Oh I get that. I was singlespeeding before half of this forum was an itch in their Dad's pants. ;)

I'm just too fat and weak now to get my SS over any actual climbs and I like riding in the hills now.

Little update on my recent Cannondale acquisition: now featuring chunky tyres and an old pannier rack I had laying around and it just all looks so very right.

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I would be screwed round here without a pretty decent gear range

That looks like it almost belongs in the functional thread. Like it a lot.

Clean them up properly, or have a pads for each wheels.

Warning; with Shimano, you need to open the bleed port to spread out the piston otherwise you’ll get a bursted bladders (cheap to replace, expensive in labour).

I've never opened the bleed port to spread Shimano pistons and I've never burst my or a brakes bladder.