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Right, but c00ps asked for a day pack, not a pack for climbing/scrambling up walls, so I was going from the hiking perspective.
Missed this - yes, that was exactly what I was asking, ta. The used Atom was a bit too beaten up for the £££, so I didn't take it. Borrowing something else temporarily this weekend, then I will look around at some other suggestions here (and probably bite the bullet and go new, as I'll have it for years).
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Right, but c00ps asked for a day pack, not a pack for climbing/scrambling up walls, so I was going from the hiking perspective.
My 35Lish UL pack weighs 290g. My non-UL but still pretty UL 45L bear can carrying, floating hip belt equipped, internally framed load hauler (20KGs+ easily) weighs 1020g. Former is constructed of Challenge Sailcloth Ultra 200 and the latter is a mixture of Challenge Sailcloth Ultragrid and an Ultra TX/Robic blend.