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• #3102
Super update this! Untill it's finished the homer will still be the coolest bike around here
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• #3103
Why can't they be fillet brazed?
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• #3104
Had a go on the Homer and it’s like an armchair on rails. The fork is a thing of beauty and I am wondering about bothering Ande for a trad 26er of it - rim brakes only, no disc brake sellout here : )
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• #3105
i saw the bike hulsroy had built for his daugter and their adventures, the one where she picks up the pinecones to put in her frame bag really got me. that's what riding is all about right? just being out with people you enjoy the company of, eating snacks and picking up weird rocks
I am all here for that. I already told you I am really excited about this and will binge watch this season!
Maj x Hulsroy x Tijmen
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• #3106
wild things are going to happen. 26inch ain't dead!
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• #3107
So pumped for this season.
What's on the cards for rims/tyres?
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• #3108
Stainless steel presumably
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• #3109
23c gatorskins
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• #3110
Yeah so I didn't explain that very nicely. The dropouts are made from stainless steel powder sintered with laser. You can Tig weld og fillet braze with silver. So it's still fillet brazing but much money re expensive with silver than brass.
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• #3111
Had a go on the Homer and it’s like an armchair on rails
Made me wish I had size 3 feet
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• #3112
Remember, this bike needs to be able to ride through ditches ;-)
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• #3113
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• #3114
But what about burning through the witches?
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• #3115
This almost certainly user error, not sure I would enjoy riding the head angle needed to offset my skill issues
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• #3116
This almost certainly user error
Upgrade to 'premium badgers' and my technical skills team will get on the case
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• #3117
really loving the homer atm, just so so good,
between the wenlock and the forest it's really making riding around fun. of course, the good weather is also contributing.
i switched the bars from @Josh 's favourite nittos to these simwork cowcows i got off a friend in exchange for a dynamo. They're a little narrower, less sweep but very nice. also means i get to put the TVM brased stem back on.
no real reason other than i'd like the nitto bars and thomson stem for the new project eventually. riding the homer around is helping me work out a bit more of what i want from the hulsroy bike in terms of build. while the frame and its specifications are pretty locked in at this point the build kit is up for debate.
The main draw back of the homer, whatever way we slice it, is the weight, this isn't just in the frame, but the wheels and the finishing kit. it was built to be cheap to replace and cheap to source. the rims are heavy, it's not tubeless, the components are from parts bins. all the 100g here and there add up to quite a fair heft at the end of the day.
i do not think i want this from the hulsroy bike, a bike really, i'm only going to be taking out on nice day rides.
having handled @launchpadboi 's gunnar on the weekend, and historically often ribbed them for their weight neurosis, i was genuinely shocked at how light that thing was, we all were. lighter than a lot of peoples road bikes.
while i will not be going to these levels it does make me want to make some considered choices.
spending a bit more on wheels and tyres, is probably the main one, i think the homer wheels are 3kg between them thanks to the vo rims and straight blade spokes (thank you lockdown shortages). being 26'' and disc, i should be able to source something considerably lighter without braking the bank, a nice xc rim or the like. paired with a lighter tubeless tyre should help along the
***R O T A T I O N A L W E I G H T ***
hydro brakes will obviously be heavier than rim ones but i think if i can find some nice old shimano's it will be nothing to worry about
cranks i do not think i'll find much lighter than some deore xt's without going carbon or spending too much money. it's not something i have really much interest in chasing down
outside of these major parts there isn't many areas to save, mainly as i insist on having weighty steel bars and a dropper.
i'm sure having only one top tube and a generally smaller frame will off set those however.
paired with a wider range casette and modest weight savings it should make it a little easier to get around off road, maybe even get over some of those ditches eh, @BareNecessities ?
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• #3118
When taking the nitto bars off I have combined them with the silver stem I got to “panda-ify” them
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• #3119
The bars suit the Homer very well 👌
I think wheels have massive potential for skimming on weight.
Spokes add up if you have 64-72 of them.
Hubs vary a lot in weight.
Same with rims (but that’s already on your radar).
And I guess finally tyres. Especially the big ones.
According to r2 billy bonkers are 498gr while the similar (but slightly wider) MAXXIS DTH are 775gr.
That’s already over half a kg in difference.
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• #3120
Are these lovely bars on their way to Birmingham to go on the marin 1x1?!
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• #3121
I have a pair of Billy tyres and they are great... Would recommend them
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• #3122
Seems like the most common sense approach
If anyone has recommendations for a wheel set which is
26” tubeless compatible
Disc
142 x 12
100 x 12
28 hole
Silver (if possible)Would be much appreciated
My mental limit is “a nice set of wheels? What about hope hubs? :)” and I have purposefully never learned anything about rims other than internal diameter.
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• #3123
They’re going in my big pile of bars and stems for when I get a parasite in my brain
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• #3124
Those criteria mean gotta go custom built, presumably...!?
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• #3125
they likely will be, but for parts to scour ebay for.
So far i'm at
halo vapour rims
hope pro 4's
64 spokes
billy bonkers
margin of error ~coming in around 1,850g
which could come in "affordably".. and .. by napkin maths ... is uhhhhh....... half the weight of the homer wheels??? (3560-ish)
wow ..damn. who knew maths wasn't just vibes based
I wish this would have been the case 20 years ago