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  • Nice time among all that!

  • A question for you fell / trail running types, if you'd be so kind.

    I'm going to run* the Cornish Skyline - a 17 mile loop around Bodmin Moor.

    What navigation advice do you have?

    I was thinking of loading a GPX on my watch, and having a printed large scale OSM cycle map (which seems to have everything that an OS map has on).

    Anything else? (I'll also have a phone.)

    * I was going to do it this weekend, but misread 17 miles as 17 kilometres. UnLuckily / luckily, I don't have time to run a 27k route, so I'll do it at the end of summer instead.

  • If you're reduced to paper map nav due to watch/phone both failing you'll need a compass and know how to use it. Enjoy.

  • I use DWMAPS on my garmin which lets me load a breadcrumb trail (essentially a floating line that says turn left or right), if I’m running somewhere new I just load the route and follow that. A paper map is advisable, but if I’m honest I regularly forgo one if I’m just following trails and have a phone as backup. If weather is bad I’d probably be more likely to have a map.
    Looking at the route, you appear to be following established trails so I personally wouldn’t be too worried about nav. One consideration would be that if you’re using a watch to load the route it will drain the battery quicker than just normal gps recording, so just be aware of what the expected battery life will be.
    Obviously YMMV, take a map and full safety kit blah blah blah. But personally I’d be far more concerned about sun protection and staying hydrated running a route like that in summer.

  • Diamond League men’s 5k tonight is going to be fuego!

  • Not as fun as the women's 15!

  • Missed it, kids woke up. Don’t know the result so might watch it.

  • Family are away this week, 24 hours a day to myself these days, and really no excuse to… not go out there and do something a bit longer. So I set my sights on this 48k full Moon marathon, don’t really tell anyone and plan to turn up cash in hand, kind up and get round, thus conjuring having not run this milestone distance before.

    Careful with nutrition over the last couple days, timed the number twos today, clock off work early and head to the start line. A lot of stress for 30 minutes as I look for the registration desk on this sports campus, thinking crap crap I did not need that anxiety before a long distance, I’m going to exhaust myself and fail later and bonk and it will be dark, etc.

    Turns out the event is not today. And I don’t think I can actually line up tomorrow. Sad trumpet noise…

  • (I did resist the spiteful temptation of a Döner kebab and beer on the way home though)

  • Wow, absolutely obliterated the record by a lot. I hope it’s the super shoes and Patrick Sang effect and not anything sinister.

  • Ah bugger. Just the way these things go! Any other opportunity for something in the week?

  • Duddon Valley tomorrow. Opted for the 15km/1000m short course rather than the 30km/1800m long which I ran last time. It was totally off my radar until someone pointed out that I could do the short if not feeling up to the long, and thus a plan was formed.
    Feeling sorry for my team mates doing the long now though. It was fairly grim conditions with low vis when I did it, but the prospect of doing it in baking heat seems way worse (but I'm a fat biffer who suffers in the heat).

  • What a run from Kipyegon!

    Is anyone going to the DL in London ?

  • Have a good one. I'm doing scafell sky race today. I am worried about the heat.

  • Hope everyone avoids heatstroke. I did parkrun and spending afternoon at a beach. 6.30am start planned for Sunday run all being well / sober.

  • Great big DNF for me today. Took the decision to cut my losses before Scafell Pike as I wasn't moving very well and felt weak.

    Lots of lessons learnt: general fitness on flat roads is no substitute for running up and down technical terrain; lots of short runs adding up to high mileage are not as useful as long, 3 hour+ runs; giving blood three days before a long run is not a good idea. Avoided heatstroke though

  • Harvey's 1:40k maps are a game changer for paper based nav or a handy backup

  • Tough day out man, I can't imagine taking on something like that without lots of time in the hills. Fair fuckin play for giving it a shot tbh. The heat today was savage.

    Ran the Duddon short today, it was hot, minor nav error at the start meant I almost missed CP1, made some good lines later on which felt like it made up for it. Body and legs simply could not be bothered though. Just couldn't will myself to speed up. Worked late shifts all week and it's just caused havoc with my body and sleep schedule. Some utterly bonkers running on the long route as it was a champs race - all my teammates said it was one of the most brutal races they've ever done, particularly due to the heat. Felt sad that I ran the long in 2019 and barely scraped myself round the short today. I feel like doing short races is good fun when you can't train, but flogging yourself round longer stuff just isn't that fun when you're not in great shape.
    Start a new job soon so hopefully I'll be able to fit some more training in. It's all progress anyway.

  • Overslept but got out again before too hot. Sounds like good call @juanito & good effort @Nef

  • Well this was fucking hard work.
    The lap counter also strongly disagrees with my gps distance. Weird.


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  • Jesus wept. Fair play. But why????

    Does the lap counter say longer I assume? Strava likely cut lots of corners off.

  • Lap counter says 134 laps which would only be 53.6k.

    Genuinely wonder if it missed a few beeps as the GPS is pretty tidy and the pace I was doing really doesn’t add up for a 13km discrepancy.

    It also didn’t audibly beep every time I crossed the pads…

  • By hovering over the trace in the analysis you can get an idea if it is a slow creep up in distance (e.g. after 10 laps how close is it to 4km).

    Also if that jaunt to the left involved going indoors (even under a marquee sometimes) it can add some considerable distance as the GPS wanders around with a poor signal even though you are not moving. Again you can check this looking at the distance covered before you left the track and when you got back to it.

  • Is Sifan Hassan the real deal? Her links to Oregon aside it’s just mad that she’d dominate Marathon, 5k and 1,500 all in the same season and the last two within days of each other. She’s the Pog of running.

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