Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

No idea, bought it like that (didn't notice when I paid). I assume it went in, they plugged it and the pressure pushed it out?!

Thats great in orange, makes it look like a piece of machinery.

Ha! Well now I've nearly got a construction company with two huge orange bits of machinery:

Oh nice. I had orange bikes in the past, but unlike yours the colour was the best part...
My reference in Berlin is as utilitarian as it gets:

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does it or does it not mean 'I am a donut'?

Pfannkuchen!

You are a doughnut.

Ok I wikipedia'd it and apparently it was just JFK's Bahstin accent (and some apocryphal reporting) that circulated the misconception

It can be both, like Wiener is a sausage and a person from Vienna. Or Frankfurter or Hamburger etc.

Accurate, actual footage of me riding trails on my orange dumpers:

Yes.
It's a joke on the JFK speech and the whole donut thing. We have really fun pr people here!!!
A jam filled donut is a Berliner everywhere, but in Berlin it's a Pfannkuchen.
But then a Pfannkuchen is a pancake and so on.

I just go to the expensive vegan donut place nowadays because I got grumbled at more than once when my south German/swiss past got obvious.

You asked for a Krapfen?

🙄

Absolutely delightful

I was just told that in Hessen those delicious things are called Kreppel.
Sounds almost like gravel, and we are back on topic, maybe?

I was always confused that a Berliner was just a Krapfen/Donut and pretty sure I remembered a different shaped pastry under that name. Turns out that was an American/Amerikaner.

Guys, please, I'm on a diet!

Ich bin ein at Greggs

Came for the gravel, stayed for the German baked goods chat 👍

There's also the German speciality called "Sandkuchen" but I guess that's for the beach racing type.

No gravel in Norfolk.

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Back to the quest for a London-Brighton offroad route, specifically EAST of the A23, any suggestion other than the SSX mystery tour variations?

Working on a London-Brighton-London offroad big day project

I have no idea how much of it is actual grav-grav or even off road but this looks like a good starter to hang some investigations onto.

https://cycle.travel/route/avenue_verte_uk

big day

Riding right through to 2pm?

Starting at 4am for sure