• Side note,

    Anyone have any big south London start loops? Talking like 160-200km, as much off-road as is possible, big day out vibes

  • I did a route with @youramericanlover about 6 years ago that meets your criteria. It was based on one of the Sunday Echapee routes I think. I can share a gpx later today.

  • @andyp and I did the main loop of this and then cut out some of the extra loop out to the right. It's not exactly what we did but the Sunday Eschappee people made a few years later - I am not sure about using a loop from 2016, might be out of date etc. Anyway was a wicked ride, and absolutely a big day out. I'm sure there are sections where you can add in more off-road, this was a "gravel" thing rather than pure off-road. Also big loop to the East is mostly road.

    May I suggest no higher than 66gi, and take off your mudguards otherwise you'll annoy your riding partner.
    https://ridewithgps.com/routes/26787422

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