• 'Shouting down' oh please get a backbone. You want to maraud around blocking some of the country's most marginalised people from participating in amateur sports while the national front and the daily heil cheerlead you, you can at least not feign you're in a state of oppression while you do it.

  • You've literally called her a nazi and we also had this:

    "I’ll fucking fight you if you say my friends aren’t who they say they are"

    So, yes, "shouting down" seems fair. I am absolutely astonished that, regardless of what you think the best solution is, statements like the following don't land a hell of a lot harder in terms of trying to create some sort of consensus position:

    "Women (OG version) are talking about this to each other. More and more every day. If they are not talking to you about it it's because they are scared to.

    Let that sink in. Women are becoming scared to tell so-called progressive, feminist men the truth. They do not believe you will listen. They believe you will call the witch hunt on them."

  • 100% There have been some really interesting posts and input on this thread, but posting like calumonwheels is one of the main reasons the whole debate gets so toxic rather then being able to understand and empathise and try to work together to find solutions.

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