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  • edit read Karu as koda! I prep on the left table, I'm currently revamping my garden and thinking about building a kitchen area to replace this but it works well. I accidentally bought the bigger gas bottle haha, you can get away with the smaller one. My only complaint is the oven loses temp really quickly, a door would help but haven't looked into it. It produces great pizza.

    Do yourself a favour and order these https://www.adimaria.co.uk/frozen-dough-balls-10x250g-dalla-giovanna

    Then spend the afternoon practicing 👍


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  • Thanks for the info!

    The Caputo website really doesn't help much - it's only half finished.

    By red, do you mean Chef (13% protein), or Pizzeria (12.5%)?

    It looks like bread flour I've been looking at (Marriages, which is what I've been using for bread making, among others) has higher protein (and W value, although that's not really used apparently).

  • As nef has said the red is stronger, It depends on what you want to do.

    Blue is good for about 24hrs rt proves
    Red works better for longer proves.

    But there's also so many things that come into it too, when the weather is better I mix blue and reds so the dough does over prove and is a bit stronger.

  • Nice, my table should arrive today, was due yesterday but dhl basically emailed me first thing in the morning saying "nah, cant be arsed today". I might assemble the table and make a decision on whether to set it up now or wait a couple weeks and do it in the new garden instead.

    I was going to get a 13kg bottle but maybe two 5kg is better so i can swap one out when i switch from an empty to a full one and so it fits on the trolley.

    I also toyed with idea of getting some ooni frozen dough balls when i ordered the table but our freezer is full up with the dogs frozen raw food, I've petitioned to get a second undercounter freezer in lieu of a dishwasher at the new place so I can freeze dough and also char sui bao once I finally getting around to making a shit ton.

  • I was going to get a 13kg bottle but maybe two 5kg is better so i can swap one out when i switch from an empty to a full one and so it fits on the trolley.

    2 5's sounds like a better bet, I've got 2 13's as my local place didn't do 5's, but you can set the shelf high enough that there's enough room for the 13's. I only really use the shelf for holding a stack of plates to put the pizzas on

  • By red, do you mean Chef (13% protein), or Pizzeria (12.5%)?

    worth noting that last year they switched the package colours round for some unknown reason. the most recent package is red for pizzeria (whereas it used to be blue - which some websites still have stock photos of...)

    i only use Pizzeria nowadays but wondering about whether to go back to Nuvola (purple) - had some good results with it but harder to get hold of

  • The references to colour make it all a little ambiguous.

    Caputo doesn't exactly help, because 1kg pizzeria is red, and 25kg pizzeria is blue.

  • exactly. best to refer to them by name. red vs blue doesnt make sense anymore unfortunately

  • I immediately gave up on 2x 5kg after seeing it would be ~£60 more for 3kg less gas and ordered a 13kg one.

    The local gas company does free next day deliveries anyways so I'm probably never going to get caught out for any important event where I need it as I can just replace if it's feeling empty beforehand so not worth over thinking too much.

  • so not worth over thinking too much.

    Yeah, I can't not imagine the scenario of having some folks around and running out midway through the pizzas and having to go through a 45 min round trip to pick up a new bottle!

    I'd very much be in the "yeah it's nearly empty but I'll get a few more out of it" camp.

    Hadn't looked at the cost of the 5kg ones in comparison, but that price seems wild. Though I guess most of the initial outlay is just the bottle itself and then the refills/replacements down the line would be a bit more in line with the cost for the 13kg ones.

    Apologies to everyone else for interrupting the much more interesting and relevant chat about different types of flour with ramblings about gas bottle options...

  • The local gas company does free next day deliveries anyways so I'm probably never going to get caught out for any important event where I need it as I can just replace if it's feeling empty beforehand so not worth over thinking too much.

    this is my strategy. the 13kg lasts AGES anyway. the dial shows you when it is low....

  • The easiest trick is that the bottles usually have their empty weight written on them so you can check with bathroom scales. You also tend to notice when the pressure starts to drop on them.

  • Apologies to everyone else for interrupting the much more interesting and relevant chat about different types of flour with ramblings about gas bottle options...

    to help stoke that conversation, I've got a couple of kilos of caputo pizzeria red arriving today as well.

  • But did you go for 1 big bag or a few smaller ones? ;)

  • Pay attention mccarthy - small bags are red, big bags are blue.

  • I'm more concerned that these bags are travelling fast enough to exhibit redshift!

  • I keep my weetabix in one of those.

    CSB

  • I need a table to go next to my large ooni table for prep but another £300 table is a level of boujie too far. :D It obviously is the best option though if you have the cash/space.

  • I stumbled across these and plan on using one as my prep area on top of the wooden kamado table I have my eye on.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09YVMN85Y/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=AYP4S2QFT8O41&psc=1

  • I went a bit crazy when we moved into our first house, buying all the stuff. I think a prep area transforms the experience, especially when making more than 2 pizzas. But it is a lot for a table 😭

  • I went a bit crazy when we moved into our first house, buying all the stuff. I think a prep area transforms the experience, especially when making more than 2 pizzas. But it is a lot for a table 😭

    Oh no shade, it's a brilliant idea. I think I need something smaller/foldable.

  • @HatBeard Your #buyer reputation precedes you, you have all the space in your new yard tho!

  • i use this trolley for my ooni 12. works perfectly and a pretty good height - https://www.diy.com/departments/goodhome-denia-garden-trolley-90kg-capacity/1875855_BQ.prd

    unfortunately discontinued but a quick google seems to show other similar ones

  • What table are you looking at?

    I've spent the past week designing something that I can build out of scaffold tubes, and stick a corian top on.

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