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spinnnout in reply to @Chaley

https://standert.de/blogs/journal/handmade-in-italy#:~:text=While%20we%20develope%20all%20our,samples%20to%20the%20finished%20production.

Going to go with Taiwan for the frame fabrication, with build (installing the groupset) and painting happening in Italy. It's not clear without them really defining what building means.

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Chaley in reply to @spinnnout

Could be? I don’t know? But?¿? I was told it was ‘made’ in Italy when I bought it.

Just across the street where our frames are built by hand they also get painted by hand

They do use the word frames not bikes. TBH as long as the person building them knows what they’re doing I couldn’t care less ;)

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spinnnout in reply to @Chaley

Worth poking fun at possibly misleading marketing, and made in Taiwain is a good thing but as you say, doesn't hugely matter if done well.

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