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Retro_Bastard
Thanks, yes I have had a look. Found a couple of reviews. It is a classy watch, a proper movement, and quite stealthy, even though it is part of Richemont. I have a Habring time only, so this might overlap a bit - if I did not have the Habring this B and M at that excellent price would be attractive. But I think I am looking for something slightly outdoorsy, so one of the Seiko Alpinists is just favourite for now.