I got 99 problems but my WiFi ain't one

That sounds ideal, I've sent you a PM.

Who actually makes decent ethernet cables? I just want a 10m long cat6 cable and there's tonnes on Amazon for a decent price with 4.x stars, but checking out the 1 star reviews suggests none of them actually are cat6 cables or provide the speed they're supposed to.

I don't know what to believe, there's too much conflicting info.

recognise that I'm asking questions about the opposite(?) of wifi in the wifi thread.

I've bought from cablemonkey.co.uk
Plenty of options on cat5, 6, 7, shielded, armoured etc.

Perfect, thanks.

+1 to that. Always found them to be good.

I used these for a load of cables and stuff. Seemed fine
https://network-cabling.co.uk/store/

What cable can I run at a right angle behind skirting board?

Dotted red line.

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None in theory. Cat5e will be more forgiving than Cat6 but there's a chance that a sharp bend will knacker it. Think the suggested bend radius is something like 4 or 5 times the diameter of the cable.

Thanks.

We are having our floors up (concrete base) which will include skirting off and I'm looking for ways to run Internet to the TV area. I assume the skirting removal will damage the brick wall behind, so thought it would be easier than chasing runs through the concrete floor.

We have virgin with one of these boxes where the blue arrow comes in. Then a phone line over where its labeled modem/router.

I guess a follow up is whether the virgin cable also needs to be run at the same angle

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^ this is behind furniture and we have kids

don't judge me

I'd still do behind skirting boards.

So long as you're gentle with the bend, only ever bend it once, and test the cable thoroughly before putting the skirting board back on you should be gold.

Cheers.

Due to various exciting PoE stuff I have a couple of Unifi APs to sell. A UAP-AC-LR (the long range) and a UAP-AC-Lite.

I have PoE injectors for them (possible caveat, they may only run at 100Mbps if you use those but I could never really work that out and info online is surprisingly sparse) or a Tough switch (will need a power supply I think think) that I can throw in for a forum donation (this definitely powers one, it may power two but it stopped doing that recently, could be down to the power supply which packed up).

Any interest before I stick them on ebay?

Unless there is another reason not to that Isn't in your post. I would personally have the virgin cable extended and put the modem in the TV area as it's more central for WiFi and puts the source near all your devices.

Aslong as the virgin cable doesn't get damaged going in I reckon it will take the bend better than the ethernet. Also if you get the rebated skirting and knock out a bit of plaster in the corners you will likely not be at 90 degree bends.

Interested in both, but that depends on if the LR is not end of life. How much are you looking for? Can discuss via pm if you prefer, so as not to derail the thread.

Cheers. That's a great idea.

I'll check how much excess there is.

Do other providers use the same cable? Or will I be stuck with virgin forever?

That cable is virgin only. If you wanted to be a bit more future proof run ethernet and coax. Definitely worth having your modem in the middle of the house if you have the option.

If you need more virgin cable I can make you what you need and send for the price of postage.

Amazing. Cheers for that!

Definitely worth having your modem in the middle of the house

You want your WiFi access point in the middle of the house. The modem, if you have a copper service, should be as close to where the copper comes into the house as possible. Extending that can mean a lower connection speed. As a result you often want two boxes and not the single integrated modem/router/access point you got for 'free' from your service provider (which are often fairly ropey anyway).

With a virgin modem the cable length in the home is mostly irrelevant. The signal is 'in spec' or it's not and it's adjustable at street level to compensate for cable length. The length from one side of the room the other is nothing compared to the hundreds of metres in the street. The modem receives 1.2gb of bandwidth and restricts it down to the right speed based on the package.

What you say is definitely relevent if you use a phone line provider and I completely agree with access points etc.

Realisticly in the next few years FTTP will replace everything and you will have a box on the wall that converts the fibre to ethernet and then to access point hense why it's worthwhile putting an ethernet in at the same time.

Realisticly in the next few years FTTP will replace everything

I'm looking forward to that but no sign of Openreach doing anything in my bit of north London :(

The plan is to turn copper off by the end of 2025. They've already done it in my neck of the woods, meaning that if I change my broadband provider, the only service on offer is FTTP. All well and good, but given that we need a landline (which will now be a 'Digital Voice' IP based landline), the only companies willing to offer us one are BT, Sky, and Vodafone, meaning there's very little in the way of competition.
When my contract comes to an end, it'll go up from £23 a month to £39 a month (broadband + landline). OK, so I'll get a 500Mb, rather than a 70Mb line, but I've got absolutely no need for the extra bandwidth. Virtually double the cost - now that's progress.

The plan is to turn copper off by the end of 2025

December 2026 now 'if the right investment conditions are in place' - https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/where-when-building-ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband

BT are very keen to turn off ~5000 exchanges, only keeping ~1000 but since FTTC is fed from one of the remaining exchanges that can stay and mine is one of the 1000 anyway.

we need a landline

You don't need to buy that from the same people you buy your IP connectivity from (you probably don't get your email from your broadband provider either). You could port your number to Number People, and buy a SIP phone, for 'free'. You pay for calls and I think there is a minimum £5/90 days topup.

Number People could be an option - thanks. I was looking for alternative providers, but I couldn't find any reasonably priced ones.