• @andyp yeah no hiding from those hills, but I'll try and squeeze in all you said. I just seen a few GPX files and there's seemingly no flat ever, just up or down, this from RWGPS has the Bormio-Stelvio-Umbrail-Stelvio-Bormio route at just under 12,000 ft climbing in 66 miles.
    https://ridewithgps.com/routes/42089809

    Mortirolo and Gavia 11,000ft climbing in 77 miles
    https://ridewithgps.com/routes/42089889

    That's what I've dreamed of tho, even if I'm questioning my eating habits all the way round. Hard work but think I can manage those, cannot wait.

  • Another loop that springs to mind is to continue down the valley pass the Mortirolo, then in Tirano turn right and climb the Bernina pass. About 3 kms before the top you can turn right over the Forcola di Livigno, drop down into Livigno itself then do the Eira and Foscagno, before a lovely long descent back down to Bormio.

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