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Thanks for your reply on the bike!
I've checked with the seller and the wheels are in fact 27", like you suspected. Very good news. The top tube is a bit long for me though, so I think I understand now why the stem reach is shortish. It's 22.5" c-c. Need to think that over. 22 would normally be my maximum, but maybe it's not the end of the world.
Sorry your offer was rejected.
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the wheels are in fact 27", like you suspected. Very good news.
For me 27" wheels are never good news (see my comments passim).
However, that Gillot looks a bargain. It's a classy frame with some good (and some bad) kit.
The top tube isn't especially long for the frame size. When you say 22" would be your maximum, what length handle bar stem do you have in mind? This bike comes with a short stem and it would be possible to go shorter.
Looking at the photos, it's clear that this machine did not belong to a 1st cat. roadman - the position looks all wrong, with the handlebar stem too high (it should never be above the nose of the saddle) and the saddle too far back. Just five minutes work with a spanner would make it look far classier.
I don't think it's ever certain whether or not a particular frame will really suit a particular rider; my experience is it's best to suck it and see. If you think you have a use for this bike and you can get it anywhere near the price mentioned - go for it!
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It wasnt a problem as the bike is definitely to small for me. I just thought it was a bargain. It has got some top quality kit fitted so i definitely think its worth a punt.
As for 27.1.1/4...! terrible for any long distance stuff but i use a set of alloy 3240 weinmann 27.1.1/4 attachwd to harden hubs with schawbe maraton tyres for commuting and i wouldnt swap the set up for anything.
clubman
falconvitesse
think they are 27.1.1/4" alloy weinmann rims not 26", If not they are 700c i very much doubt they are 26"as this is a later gillott model from the late fifties early sixties.
Possibly an italo model.
nice frame i did put an offer in but it was rejected.