• Understood - so based on the below the canyon will be over 7cm longer reach than my CAAD….seems like quite a lot

  • Check the geo on canyons website as they offer two stack and reach for Grail, one set to silly handlebar and one normal. It's a bit weird to work out the comparison.

    Also they bars are stupid as fuck, buy a normal bike, like the Grizl.

  • Good shout thanks, just had a look at the “normal” geo comparison and it’s much closer.

    Buying the Grail second hand and it’s a pretty good deal so think I’m going to take a gamble on the hover bars…

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