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Aw cool.

Did you pick a 904/904 type liner or did you chose another option? If you did can I ask what and why?

Feel free to take photos :)

Are you doing it yourself or getting someone in?

I’m at opening up a boarded up fireplace, clearing the rubble etc and getting it ready for a HETAS guy to line the chimney with the lifetime guarantee 904/904 liner (I need 25 meters) and fit / connect/ backfill etc a combination iron fireplace

I’ll buy it once I get the measurements double checked by the professional and make sure I’m buying the right thing.

I also want to see if he can make some type of Y duct and connect the fireplace in the adjoining room that’s on the same side of the wall.

Sounds legit right?

Ours is all being done by the HETAS registered bloke that the stove shop uses. The only thing we chose was the stove. He takes care of everything else.

I couldn’t comment on the Y duct, but you have the right bloke on board to ask!

EDIT: his work summary states “Liner kit 13s”. I have no idea what that means.

904 is the tougher grade of stainless steel. It's more resistant to the acids burning smokeless and anthracite create.

(I need 25 meters)

Wow.

lifetime guarantee 904/904 liner

Meh. Liners don't last. I'd be surprised if the guarantee was worth anything. If you fuck it in the short term, it will be something silly you've done, and if it dies after ten years, they will say , well, that's the lifetime, or, you didn't sweep it enough. It's like boiler warranties, you need to be the god of maintenance, fed it nothing but the purest water, and have burned nothing but the finest, finest gas to have a sniff of a warranty fix. Also, no woo devices? no fix.

I also want to see if he can make some type of Y duct and connect the fireplace in the adjoining room that’s on the same side of the wall.

"Lol, no" will be their response.

p.s. putting an open fire place back in is really silly, sorry. They are horribly inefficient and mucky things, even compared to a log or multi fuel burner. They require flues that may not work with a burner, so retrofitting one later when the govt. bans open fires will be expensive, and you don't need a bonfire in your home. You're welcome.

if that persuades you to put in a burner in, and it's a ground floor with a suspended timber floor, get the external air kit fitted, and have it draw air from the underfloor void. Why? Think about it...

Buy an air purifier for your neighbours.

As much as I liked the open fireplace our family had and used once a year, installing any kind of wood burning thing nowadays is just silly.
Unless you have your own woodland and no close neighbours if course.

installing any kind of wood burning thing nowadays is just silly.

Yes and no. It is kinda carbon neutral, unlike burning gas (or using the electricity generated from fossil fuels). Modern DEFRA stoves are pretty clean and efficient. But I get that nobody really needs one in their home, in a town or city, anyway.

Meh, I'm a vegetarian who doesn't own a car. Let me burn some wood, for the sake of fuck. :D

I'm a vegetarian who doesn't own a car.

You monster

Modern DEFRA stoves are pretty clean and efficient.

relatively, yes but overall still pretty bad for air quality.

the study demonstrates that people inside homes with a residential stove are at risk of exposure to high intensities of PM2.5 and PM1 within a short period of time through normal use.

vegetarian

You bastard. Have you even looked into the egg and milk industries? No way are we letting you have any sort of fire.

I am a horrible human.

you should just top yourself now before you emit any more carbon

If you want to be warm just put a jumper on.

But only one made from fair trade cotton. Bought from a charity shop. And check the charity gives a good proportion of their donations away rather than just paying their CEO a grotesque salary.

just to be clear - the paper i linked isn't about carbon or polluting your neighbours. It's about AQ inside your own house. It's not a virtue thing, it's a 'don't poison yourself' thing.

Is buying from a charity shop tax deductible? It's basically a donation.

Listen. I'll open the windows and back door to get a through draft.

There's plenty of shit in your home that will kill you if you ingest enough of it (in one dose or over a period of time). But I get that you don't want to add extra than there might not be otherwise.

Also depends on how good the set-up is and the skill of the operator, but again I understand people are generally pretty feckless :) (says he who nearly lost an eye 'servicing' a suspension fork).

aye - it was a key part of me getting rid of my gas hob. Awful for AQ!

I love my gas hob :(

Good thing our house is fucking leaky

Oh wait here's my heating bill...

lol. maybe run the AC at the same time as the burner to manage temps and air quality

Please excuse the naked walls but the kitchen doors are finally here & going on!

Feels like it's been an epic slog to get to this point but this is the last big job for the knock-through/extension (just got kitchen tiling & 2nd round of painting to do afterwards). Gratuitous cupboard shot:

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25m of liner seems insane to me. I live in a fairly standard but not tiny Edwardian terraced house and I think when I lined my chimney with 316 liner a few weeks back I used 11.5m of the stuff from top to bottom.

I wouldn't bother to buy the expensive liner. It should last 15 years even if you abuse it. Then just spend 250 quid or whatever and buy some more if you get a CCTV inspection done and it's fucked.

As it happens the cost of liner has gone up a lot in the last year (like everything else).I think I paid 155 quid for the liner, nose cone, hanging pot and data plate. That was very nearly almost a year ago.

I installed it myself on a building control notice. Total cost was just under a grand all done. The building control officer wanted a test certificate from a chimney sweep to sign it off which wasn't a problem.

So we agree that one should buy an air purifier if installing a wood burner, but for their own living room?

Watched this video not long ago and it's made me very curious about how much of a difference the quality of the stove, fuel, and maintenance is RE: air quality

I know this is one person and an unverified AQ monitoring device - but still kind of interesting to see the potential variations in results

https://youtu.be/ELFzrY97CPw?t=1197
(link set to start at the relevant part of the vid)

Whoops. Should have added context.

Elevated ground floor corner flat in a Victorian tenement makes it quite tall.

I’ll get a HETAS guy to do all of that. I don’t fancy being up on that roof.

I was gonna buy fancy liner just because of the hassle getting up that high and maybe not have to reline it in 10 years.

I’ll be burning smokeless fuels which are more corrosive.

@howard - Thanks for the tip about warranties. Nice to know in advance and yes. It’ll be drawing from the cellar underneath.