• I’ve convinced myself the above wouldn’t have happened with AWD.

    It sounds much more likely to me that your accident was oversteer caused by turning under braking or when lifted off rather than because you accelerated so hard you broke traction (also defeating the traction control if it was on) so the driven wheels are likely not a factor in the crash. Indeed a front- or 4-wheel-drive car with a more front-biased weight distribution may have been more likely to have the same accident.

    Sometimes crashes can’t be avoided.

    Either way the proper answer is only slightly different; 997 2S or 997 4S.

  • Either way the proper answer is only slightly different; 997 2S or 997 4S

    I did not realise these had back seats and spent last night looking. The bit that scares me is nearly all at or around 70k miles have ‘full engine rebuild’ in the description. That sounds Dammit expensive.

    Ford Focus RS?

    I’m not sure I can live with the ‘Fisher Price’ dash. But there are a couple local to me for sale. Sounds like I might need a test drive when my shoulder heals up and I can change a gear…

    a Subaru or mitsubishi evo

    10 years ago absolutely, yes. It’s unfortunately just not my thing now.

    RS3

    I’d enjoy the extra cylinder for sure. But they’re all pre facelift :( Maybe I’ll save more cash, but having just lost a bunch in this incident I’m inclined not to.

    "Sometimes crashes can’t be avoided."
    driving slower can help with this.

    This is true, but not in this case. I was driving to the conditions and well within the speed limit, low revs - oil temp wasn’t even there yet and I’ve taken this seriously since ownership. Literally left the house 5 minutes before and drive through town.
    Now to that point; everything was cold. Including the tyres. Was that a factor? Perhaps. But I’m not going to dwell on it.

    The M140i I bought because it ultimately wasn’t a ‘point and squirt’ car. I wanted something at the time that required some thought when being driven not just mashing the accelerator at exit of a corner or an overtake. My view having had an accident has changed…

  • Golf R then?

  • Let's say you were in a fwd hot hatch, particularly a tail happy one, lifting off while turning into the verge of or clear lane could well have had the same result. I wouldn't dwell on any particular type of car helping you avoid it, apart from one with all current safety tech and nanny systems to keep you out of trouble. Although those BMW 1 series coupes are pretty unstable in the wrong circumstances.

    Just thinking, the most unflappable car I've ever driven was a golf R. To the point of total boredom!

  • That sounds Dammit expensive.

    It needn’t be if you do your research. There’s a repair cost risk in any performance car. Newish Audis and Golfs that have been owned on 3 year leases will have been mercilessly ragged and VAG cars are both unreliable and massively expensive to repair these days. Every little electronic thing that fails, and they do fail, costs >£1k to fix.

    What there isn’t with an old 911 is significant depreciation. Your £30k golf or BMW will be £12k in 3 years. Your £30k 911 will be £25k.

    Financially speaking only a fule would drive anything other than a 15+ year old 190mph Porsche.

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