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• #2
TOR is TT/pursuit geometry: long and low with a slack head tube. It's also a lot flexier than a pro carbon (had both). People do seem to weirdly overprice them as well (wouldn't pay more than £300 for one tbh). Pro Carbons are famously flexy as well, but the geo is excellent, and unless you're putting out a shitload of watts, you may not notice it anyway.
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• #3
Thanks for that, good to know as it seems there's a black hole when it comes to TOR info online. Also good to know where it stacks up against the Pro Carbon. I was looking at getting myself a second hand TOR (to upgrade from the rental alloy Condors/Fujis), but I might still stick it out and keep browsing: if I were to get one now it would probably be a Pro Carbon, but I've heard so much about how flexi they are, so will just have to wait for the perfect frame!
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• #4
I have the Stealth TT which I presume is similar to the Pro Carbon track frame and the back end is pretty flexy. I've used the screw adjusters to make sure I don't pull a wheel as you can get it rubbing on the stays and stopping to adjust a wheel in a TT is not great.
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• #5
Keep an eye out for Planet X Koichi Sans. They're an open mould frame that's based on a Cervelo T3 and you see them with all kinds of different brand names on. They pop up relatively cheaply every once in a while and are absolutely banging frames for the money.
Does anyone have any experience with either of these frames, specifically the T.O.R.? There's very little info about the pro carbon track online, and virtually nothing about the T.O.R. What are the differences/advantages between the two, and how are they to ride around a track?
Thanks in advance