EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Saw the Daily Mail headline in the local supermarket earlier and they refer to the meeting as:

SECRET PLOT TO UNRAVEL BREXIT

I have since looked at the article online and it was apparently held by pro-remainers to undermine Brexit!! According to Frost, there is nothing wrong with Brexit, the government just need to implement it in full instead of putting up taxes....simple then.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/european-commission-takes-poland-to-court-over-legal-polexit

I am furious that they haven't called it Exitpole.

furious

Apolexit, shirley.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/16/sunak-von-der-leyen-northern-ireland-protocol-deal?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

The EU has compromised over the role of the EJC in trade disputes so we might have an agreement.

I doubt the DUP will go back in government but who knows...

2 years wasted thanks to Frost and Boris thanks assholes. As much as I don't like most of Sunak's policies at least he's pragmatic here.

Will the Brexit Ultras in the Conservative Party be as pragmatic?

I expect then to throw a tantrum, they don't seem to have any vision bar picking non UK grown cherries.

The ECJ thing will be a fudge - there's no way the EU is going to agree that the ECJ isn't the ultimate arbiter of European law in a territory that is subject to it, what this will be I suspect is a panel that disguises (to an extent) the true situation.

Which means it will be an interesting - ERG and DUP members are going to have to choose whether they line up behind a deal that, ultimately, goes against everything they say they want, because it's now politically convenient to do so.

The REUL bill and ECHR bollocks is likely part bargaining and part distraction for the ERG and the NI Protocol situation.

The DUP doesn't want to government with SF as the biggest party even though both first ministers have equal power so expect them to make stuff up while the NHS crisis here worsen by the day.

If however they DO go back in government, I'd be pleasantly surprised but they don't give a fuck about actual issues like housing and health or they'd have sat by now.

ERG and DUP members are going to have to choose whether they line up behind a deal that, ultimately, goes against everything they say they want, because it's now politically convenient to do so.

The ERG might get sidestepped. Good politicking from Labour, I think.

Steve Reed, shadow justice secretary, said Labour had not been consulted on a potential deal but added: “We’re prepared to give Rishi Sunak the additional votes he needs to get this through parliament.

https://www.ft.com/content/98e7b486-1071-488a-b55e-66e1d6f5618d

Sunak will never go to a vote if he needs Labour to win - he'd be gone within the week.

At some point a Conservative leader is going to have to stare the ERG down. It might not be Sunak, but a party cannot be beholden to a small group of head cases indefinitely.

I'd give you good odds on the head-cases outlasting the Conservatives as a major political party.

https://hungarytoday.hu/hungary-sides-with-poland-in-the-dispute-over-jurisdiction/

Home to this nonsense

Can’t decide if this is genius or naivety, or both. Sunak decided to come up with a renegotiated deal using the DUP’s seven criteria, but without telling them. That bit makes sense as you know they’d find a way to object and/or poison the negotiations. But to start briefing that they’d been met without actually talking to them yins seems wildly optimistic, at best.

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-has-so-far-kept-his-brexit-talks-trump-card-under-wraps-but-will-he-ever-get-to-play-it-12817026

Sunak probably can, of course, get this through Parliament with Labour support, but that would almost certainly mean a vote of confidence within the Tory party.

A lot of press omits thar the ERG hasn't gone away, you know.*

As if this shit show is entirely the fault of the DUP.

Sunak needs a trump card for them too. Or not give a shit and call them out. They are going to lose hard next GE anyway and kicking out the erg is only better for the Cons.

It seems that on the face of it Sunak has done a decent job of renegotiating the NIP. Obviously, it is still rolling the brexit turd in glitter - and still needs to get past the DUP. But seems some of the ERG are caving in and falling into line (Tories gonna tory).
Who knew that actually negotiating and not being totally antagonistic gets better results.

some of the ERG are caving in and falling into line

Francois has predictably not even read it yet and come out against it though.

His sudden re-emergence is most unwelcome. Horrible little man.

I think the ERG have completely lost the plot on this, the vast majority of voters don't care about the ECJ having oversight on something. Add that to the growing belief that Brexit has been nothing short of a disaster and all it does is remind everyone that the Tories created this mess so the best thing we can do to fix it is to eject them from office.

Steve Baker on Radio 4:

What an extraordinary opportunity for Northern Ireland: dual access to both markets

We had that before Brexit you cretin.

His sudden re-emergence is most unwelcome. Horrible little man.

Agreed. The allegations must have been dropped then.

Must register slight disappointment that a technological solution involving airships is not included.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/feb/28/rishi-sunak-uk-eu-northern-ireland-deal-brexit-tories-labour-politics-live?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Lol the state of this. Work pays, we take both communities in NI into account...the pure spin!

At least the bickering may be over and Horizon restored but if manufacturing moves from GB to NI then the only levelling up will be here!

What an extraordinary opportunity for Northern Ireland: dual access to both markets

We had that before Brexit you cretin.

Though this is now an opening for the whole of the UK to get the deal NI has. At PMQs Starmer won't ask, but should, whether the same deal would be good for the whole of the UK

Though this is now an opening for the whole of the UK to get the deal NI has.
At PMQs Starmer won't ask, but should, whether the same deal would be
good for the whole of the UK

IMO Not a snowball's chance in hell that the EU would allow this deal for the whole of the UK, if it does, we should bite it's hand off!

Obviously I've not read it, but seems to me that NI can now benefit from both the EU internal trade laws, as well as having UK external to the EU status when it suits. Signs are that its even beginning to sink in with the DUP?