The fall of the Tory party

I've never seen the sketch that meme was pulled from but "hot dog Toryism" makes perfect sense once I did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLfAf8oHrMo

With Mark Francois MIA, Dom Cummings gone and Steve Baker having had some kind of Damascene conversion as well as Boris nobbled, are the Eurosceptics done?

Sounds like it (for now). Johnson will no doubt be on an unavoidable trip when the Windsor thing vote comes up, so won't be significant rebels and Sunak will have avoided relying on Labour vote. I suppose the DUP might still throw their toys out, but will look increasingly (even more) marginal.
Hopefully most of the ERG headbangers will lose their seats in the next election.

Just seen the Matt Hancock WhatsApp story.

If you can't trust someone who said David Cameron fucked a pigs head and was super anti -lockdown to ghostwrite your memoir and not break an NDA, who can you trust?

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Problem is the hardcore ERG are in the safest of safe seats. They’re likely to be the only ones that remain.

The Telegraph has obtained more than 100,000 messages sent between Mr Hancock and other ministers and officials at the height of the pandemic.

I wonder what else may come out of these messages?

The misinformation during lockdown fully exposed. Follow the science

WA1's Montague seemed desperate to fling mud at the Telegraph bod rather than focus on the story itself. I think it's too late for a reverse ferret. How the enquiry delivers a whitewash will be interesting (as will how the findings are reported).

Class action against the govt re the care home release?

Problem is the hardcore ERG are in the safest of safe seats. They’re likely to be the only ones that remain.

Please gods, make it so...

Gossipier end of political Twitter thinks they are all fucked including Rishi and Telegraph will dripfeed it. If Boris is kept out of it then you'll know its his fingerprints on it.

Pulls up a comfy chair and pours a sherry in anticipation......

I hope they hurry up about it. The tory party has been falling for ages now and I’m giddy with anticipation for the crescendo.
The ‘tory party limps along and very slowly recovers because the proles have short memories’ thread just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

Full apocalypse before the end of this season please, no cliffhangers please :)

But are we going to have to quite like Isabel Oakeshott now?

it took hippy 20 years to send 100,000 messages / posts
how the heck did hancock do it in the few months leading up to covid and the few months after it broke
can someone do the maths on the average message per day

That's up to you ;)

But interesting that she makes the public interest argument. After all, it would be very much in the public interest that the funding behind her boyfriend's past and present political ventures is made fully transparent.

Frankly given her track record with sources (ask Vicky Pryce what happens), it's a wonder anyone would trust her with any kind of information.

No.

Hancock and DHSC had been under investigation by ICO already for use of Whatsapp, I think Matt has probably failed the "kept secure" requirement.

"The ICO said a reprimand had been issued to DHSC under the UK general data protection regulation, requiring that the department improve its processes and procedures around the handling of personal information through private correspondence channels and ensuring that information is kept secure."

What and renege upon the 'Never kissed/fucked/trusted a Tory' mantra?

The Telegraph managed to keep the story secret for months!

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-importance-of-exposing-matt-hancocks-whatsapp-messages/

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The timing is interesting following from Sunak's small win in the last few days.

https://youtu.be/bvFuUaCe8eY

The Telegraph managed to keep the story secret for months!

Assume this was part of some deal while Oakshitt could make some cash out of the book first.

(noticed typo, but left it in anyway)

Frankly given her track record with sources (ask Vicky Pryce what happens), it's a wonder anyone would trust her with any kind of information.

Surely in the public interest to see powerful people go to jail for conspiracy.

At least we got one enjoyable thing from this thread. 👍

Good Law project asking ICO to refer DHSC to the High Court for contempt for not releasing the Matt Hancock's Whatsapp messages to the ICO.

Presumably because DHSC saw what the Telegraph is seeing.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VgHux1Htds1hHmR0OIvbo5uWMtgpOC4E/view

Surely in the public interest to see powerful people go to jail for conspiracy.

Oh I don't disagree. I was just remarking that she (Oakeshott) has a reputation/previous for not following the usual journalist's M.O. of protecting their sources. I think she is on record as constantly reassuring Pryce she would be in the clear and was then responsible for releasing the information that got her jailed too. So for Hancock to rely on her of all people to keep schtum about anything was a particularly poor piece of judgment to add to his increasingly large collection.