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As mentioned, you can stiffen them with plastic. I put a flat base in mine which helps but someone on here worked out you could bend it and tuck in under the batten to form a U shape which really helps support the bag and keep its shape.
Have to say I’ve got a classic carradice, Nelson I think, which I hate using , the buckles are a pita. Super c is so much easier to live with
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Nice one, I'm sold on Carradice but just need to decide if I need super C or super C audax will be enough.
Just need to join CAMRA now...
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I’ve been doing this for many years and it works well, though if you’re carrying hard items they will bang around in there - I always carry a jacket or sweater so not usually a problem.
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withered_preacher
I like this suggestion a lot, Junior looks good too but I cba with fiddly leather belt buckles
Looking at your photo I wonder if even the big boi Super C might fit. Wide flared drop bars. Obvs only the middle would be supported by the rando rack, but given its supposed to be hung off a saddle with no support at all, hoping that wouldn't be an issue?