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  • I probably agree with you, all I'm saying is that, if people are wondering why weirdoes think 15 minute cities means your movements will be tracked and you won't be allowed to leave your neighbourhood, that is because in Oxford this is (sort-of, at a big stretch, ignoring the caveats and fine-print) actually happening.

    And yes that assumes that you literally only travel anywhere by car but for a huge chunk of the population that is true

  • i see what you're saying but i think it's important to be accurate with our language

    you won't be allowed to leave your neighbourhood

    This isn't happening, no matter how you stretch.

    your movements will be tracked

    This is already happening through ANPR cameras at 99% of forecourts, through speed cameras, though general surveillance, through your mobile phone and through your debit card spending. But I'm sure all these protestors were equally as outraged about those things...right?

    Car use has been conditional since forever. We require people to be tested, licensed, insured, and taxed before they can drive. We impose those conditions because it benefits society to do so. This is no different from that.

  • But I'm sure all these protestors were equally as outraged about those things...right?

    £10 says that if you brought all those things out now it would be exactly the same.

    Thanks to a number of factors these people are now part of an online community exploited by the social media platforms.

  • We require people to be tested, licensed, insured, and taxed before they can drive.

    I bet many of the objectors with their accusations of ultra surveillance want cyclist to have registration numbers, pay road tax, and have insurance

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