Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

If the big P can do cargos for £11 why would Rapha's production costs be so different?

Can Primark engineer shorts to turn transparent over time or a shirt fabric that reliably
develops holes after a short time? Thought not.

Completely agree.. the R**** are skilled at engineering and marketing holy shirts and transparent shorts. The big P just get on with selling cheap stuff and try not to produce threadbare shirts and diaphanous shorts.

Edit to add.. I haven't experienced the wonders of R**** engineered holes and transparency so I'm taking your word for it.

He worked there. I worked there. It’s true. Re primark A) they make utter shit in sweatshops and B) order hundreds and hundreds of thousands of each SKU.

Why are you using asterisks? So weird.

I believe this.

There is never a product that they buy for £5 and sell for £165

I know a business consultant who helped a company that used to produce some of the Rapha clothing here in Lithuania (as well as some other brands like Scott, maybe Castelli - not sure about that) and of course he couldn't tell me anything concrete but he hinted to me that numbers regarding production costs in Rapha spreadsheet are the highest when comparing with other similar products that sewing company produced.

As far as I know they no longer produce anything here - probably it was too expensive.

Look guys. Primark can sell a tshirt for £3 therefore any tshirt that costs more is a rip off. Clowns.

Of all the wild threads on here, comparing Primark and rapha is top tier.

Especially with user-error prone bibs. So much saltiness and undersizing....

Early rapha was ridiculously durable. My merino classic jersey from 2014 does not want to give way

If you chaps think that £200 for some PRC combat trousers is reasonable then crack on. Enjoy the brand because there ain't much else at R****.

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Primark Core range is only £1.50 for a t-shirt, but you can see nipple.

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It's interesting to me that the above is directed at the man not the ball. It raises the question of just how far the brand has come.

you sound as unhinged as I do when I talk about Surly

Old man shouts at the moon.

Your trolling game is weak.

It continues.. I find it amusing to be tagged as old ,weird and trolling when this thread is dedicated to a brand deeply associated with MAMIL culture which is itself deeply weird and essentially the universe of inadvertent trolling.

Putting on my critical lens, utterly associated with the patriarchy and a neo-colonialist view of the non TAS cycle superhighways. The uniform of the dominant white male in the public green spaces of our verdant island.

The owners of R**** deserve some attention too.

*Jim Walton's eldest son, Steuart, seems to follow in his father's footsteps politically. In fact, he has also given generously to the National Republican Congressional Committee.

As far back as 2004, Steuart Walton has supported such conservative politicians as U.S. Sens. John Boozman; Mitt Romney, R-Utah; and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; as well as Womack. In 2015, Walton also donated to Republican Jeb Bush's presidential campaign.*

Is this some sort of weak AI generated chat bot troll?

I would like to join in.

“ As an AI language model, I am unable to express an opinion or judgment. However, I can provide some insights on the ethics of the brand Rapha and its relationship with the modern-day MAMIL (Middle-Aged Man in Lycra) on an internet cycling shit-talk forum.

Rapha is a premium cycling brand that has gained a strong reputation for producing high-quality cycling clothing, accessories, and equipment. The brand has established itself as a luxury brand in the cycling industry, targeting a specific audience of passionate cyclists who are willing to pay a premium price for high-quality products.

However, the brand's approach to marketing and promoting its products has been criticized by some as elitist and exclusionary. Some argue that the brand has created a culture of snobbery within the cycling community, where the focus is on exclusivity and expensive gear rather than the enjoyment of cycling itself.

The modern-day MAMIL, who is often portrayed as a wealthy middle-aged man who spends a lot of money on high-end cycling gear, is seen as a key target market for Rapha. The brand's marketing campaigns often feature images of well-dressed cyclists riding expensive bikes in scenic locations, which some argue reinforces the idea that cycling is a sport for the wealthy and privileged.

The ethics of Rapha's marketing approach in relation to the modern-day MAMIL is a topic of debate among cyclists. Some argue that the brand's focus on quality and attention to detail is a positive thing, while others feel that the brand's marketing approach is elitist and exclusionary.

Overall, the ethics of Rapha's brand image and marketing approach are subjective and open to interpretation. While the brand has undoubtedly established itself as a leader in the cycling industry, its approach to marketing and promoting its products may not be for everyone. Ultimately, it is up to individual consumers to decide whether or not they want to support the brand based on their own personal values and beliefs.”

Interesting.. A new member joins the fray..

To continue.. The current owners fund all sorts of weird shit to quote Dubya.

Mottram deserves some examination. A former employee of Interbrand (and PWC whose brand needs no further investigation) whose mission statement is required reading..

The best brands sustain relevance and increase brand value by dropping category norms and addressing human motivations. Culture evolves, customer expectation shifts, someone is already rethinking your category.

So, how much do the 200 quid trousers cost to make?

Mottram's pump and dump is also interesting. A P/E ratio of 44 based on the stuff released to the press.

Where can I get these trousers? They must be good at that price.

$30 at the most..

https://m.made-in-china.com/product/Loose-Casual-Men-prime-S-Trousers-Solid-Color-Pocket-Cargo-Pants-Trousers-for-Men-1956266345.html

I once pinched a £200+ jacket. Its fucking great, I'm gonna say its worth the money if you can afford those kinda things