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This is spot on. Corresponds to my measurements.
They did change a fair amount. I appreciate the input.@Eejit If I had the space, I'd take it, as it is, I can't get to most of my bikes as it's in the way.
I won't be moving the price any lower to be honest.
I might be wrong but I'm guessing the surly geo on the website is the latest one - is this more accurate? (genuine question not a sarky comment) https://geometrygeeks.bike/bike/surly-big-dummy-2017/