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  • I'll chip in with my modest experience: we've had two relatively affordable used Leafs, powered by Dale Vince's vegan football team's wind and sunshine, have made our commuting almost a joy, initially for an 80 mile round trip, now for 40 miles. Second Leaf is being mended after someone smashed into it, and we managed (after a lot of pain) to get a Peugeot e208 as a replacement hire car which is a bit smaller but has a lovely range (probably close to 200 miles). This experience makes me even more cross about the distraction and illusion of PHEV and those "self-charging" (ha bloody ha) Toyota things. Living a few miles from the nearest bus and rail routes means we have to use cars, and EVs have made this as close to tolerable as we can get.

  • self-charging" (ha bloody ha) Toyota things

    But if your working day was 200 miles and you had no drive you might find the Toyota was the best bet

  • Perhaps, but then again, how can it be better than a standard ICE (other than by allowing part of the journey to have lower emissions)? If all the power comes from fossil fuel, surely this is an extra inefficiency? But it’s the implied promise of perpetual motion that bugs me.

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