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  • Those numbers are all true but do they really matter?

    Should the hummer exist? Fuck no but I’m really not sure what that has to do with a RR PHEV.

    My point is simple:

    Any EV in an equivalent category small, medium, larger, planet sized is going to be greener versus a PHEV. And by a long distance.

    Marketing PHEVs as green is con. Giving them any tax breaks at all is criminal.

    Those breaks should either go towards pure EVs or to EV or renewable infrastructure.

  • Those numbers are all true but do they really matter?

    Yes! I’d we’re trying to be Green and safe noone should be driving anything as big and heavy as an X or Range Rover. They require too much energy to move them and are dangerous to road users in smaller vehicles.

    I agree with all the other bits.

    But PHEVs are better for the world than diesels. They have a good use case if you can’t do, or don’t think you can do, a proper EV. I’d rather the range anxious golfer drove a brand new RR PHEV past my suburban semi* than brand new RR diesel.

    I’d obviously rather he got a new MG4 or an old Micra than either of those, but he’s a cunt.

  • But PHEVs are better for the world than diesels.

    Not really. That’s the point.

    In absolutely ideal conditions and usage they clearly are but, as the links in the last couple of pages show, they’re massively underreporting real world emissions (worse for environment and less tax collected to drive infrastructure) and people often don’t charge them meaning they’re an underpowered diesel or petrol in a heavier car.

    People should either keep their old vehicle or wait for more cost effective EVs. That manufacturers are allowed to use PHEVs toward their carbon credits to avoid developing cost effective EVs is a scandal.

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