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  • Don’t PHEVs need to be plugged in though, like on a driveway?

    Totally agree that infrastructure needs to be improved all around but if someone doesn’t have a driveway, PHEV is an even worse choice. No way they’re going out of their way to charge a tiny battery at a station when they could spend 2 mins at a petrol station.

    As for SUV vs light being a different discussion; I disagree. PHEV tech is being used to greenwash massive vehicles (look at the RR sport PHEV etc). Pathetic range, horribly larger ICE and lovely big tax discounts.

  • People without somewhere to charge their PHEV won’t get a PHEV. That would be daft.

    My point is that EVs are just as guilty of being too big and bling. Teslas S, X and Y are obscenely large, unnecessarily accelerative and massive statements of wealth in exactly the same way Range Rovers are. Audi E-trons. BMW iX. There are loads. It’s not propulsion method, it’s all cars getting too big, too heavy, too dangerous. The Rivian weighs over 3 tonnes, I can’t think of a PHEV that weighs that much, it’s 600kg heavier than the RR PHEV. The electric Hummer weighs over 4000kg, unless you’re in your 40s you need a special license to drive one. It’s madness.

    I don’t think PHEVs are any bigger or heavier than others.

    ETA - The Tesla X is longer, wider and heavier than the current Range Rover.

    TLDR: Get a 1 litre Micra.

  • Those numbers are all true but do they really matter?

    Should the hummer exist? Fuck no but I’m really not sure what that has to do with a RR PHEV.

    My point is simple:

    Any EV in an equivalent category small, medium, larger, planet sized is going to be greener versus a PHEV. And by a long distance.

    Marketing PHEVs as green is con. Giving them any tax breaks at all is criminal.

    Those breaks should either go towards pure EVs or to EV or renewable infrastructure.

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