The fall of the Tory party

Rising without a trace being the very attribute needed for such a calling

30p Lee appointed deputy party chair.

Dear god. Still, that backs up my fictional fiver on 30p Lee as the next leader.

Michael Heseltine in the HoL summing up Tory attitudes with zero shame.

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30p Lee appointed deputy party chair.

And he's already caused the Tories to distance themselves from him because he's started banging on about the death penalty.

Also car-crash interview with BBC Nottingham, finishing with him asking them not to play it out. So they have released the full thing.

Yeah - you know all that batshit mental stuff that you just taped on the record? Please don't share it with anyone, ok? Thanks.

Appointing Anderson to such a senior role shows that the UKIP-ification of the Conservative Party is complete. He’s a pub bore at best, and his attraction to voters is extremely limited.

Given UKIP maxed out at 15% vote share, I think, they run the risk of becoming a minority party unless they address this. Their strategy just appears to be non-existent. In chasing their core pensioner vote, they fail to address the concerns of huge swathes of the population and face becoming an irrelevance.

UKIP maxed out at 15% vote share

That’s the sort of swing that decides elections tho. That’s what they’re desperately aiming for.

I don’t think it will work, but in desperate times you take desperate punts.

Maybe, but what happens if Farage decides to take over the leadership of Reform and stand against the Tories for betraying Brexit? Then they are both competing for the same voters and Reform would take enough that they’d lose even more seats.

Given UKIP maxed out at 15% vote share

This isn't going to work for Rishi he doesn't have the same appeal as Johnson to mobilize those voters, and Get Brexit done was a great rallying cry to get the 2016 vote out again.

That's gone now, to the majority of people brexit is done and they can see it shit, small boats, and general culture war stuff isn't cutting through, these voters will go back to not voting or voting for fringe party's.

Appointing Anderson to such a senior role shows that the UKIP-ification of the Conservative Party is complete.

It definitely hints at who owns the party and the direction they'll have in opposition after they lose - they'll Michael Howard / IDS it for a few years again I guess.

It will hopefully serve to achieve a number of things - those voters in the more liberal centre-right area will be disgusted and hopefully decide it's not the party for them, those of a more fash perspective will be incensed by Sunak having to say that it's not something the Tories will do, pushing them to Reform etc, and it's more noise that does nothing but draw attention to a party that cannot (forgive me) execute on any of their ideas other than transferring tax payers money to their mates via corrupt private VIP lanes.

In chasing their core pensioner vote, they fail to address the concerns of huge swathes of the population and face becoming an irrelevance.

I heard an interesting point that they're effectively appealing to their 1980s voting group - and as time has gone on it is dying out leaving them with an ever decreasing group. Cameron managed to pivot the party to a broader base, but they've lost that.

finishing with him asking them not to play it out

lol - do you not get media training when you become Deputy Chair of the Party?!

Maybe that’s also in the Tory’s thoughts - placate Farage by appointing right wing nutters so he won’t wade back in. It certainly must be a concern.

I hate to get too excited about how fucked they are, it always seems to turn back at election time. But it didn’t in 1997. I know that was then, but it could be again.

From about 3h:45m. WAFC. Delicious!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0dy7hh4

I think that is exactly what 30p was promoted there to do.

But as Dammit says, I hope that actually means we'll see even further splits. If Reform can take another 5% of the Tory right vote they could be completely destroyed.

I reckon sunak thinks every voter in red wall seats is just like Anderson and this will get them all voting con again.

Jeez! What a listen.

Just seen this hot take on the death penalty post-BBC interview. General narrow-minded/twattish mindset or a good way to bury bad news?

A lot of sniffing going on. I guess it is cold season.

"I've met the man on the street. He's a cunt" Sid Vicious

Yeah I thought that too....

That's hilarious.

Also I assumed 3:45 was minutes, rather than hours, so I got to listen to Erasure - Sometimes, and that was great too.

Ha ha! Yeah definitely their best tune IMO!