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  • News says we could give aircraft to Ukraine, was just wondering what we could give them ? Do we have the equivalent of the US boneyard where planes like the Harrier get stored.

  • Problem is it's not just moving the planes over the border. Ignoring the logistics of spare parts etc, you need trained ground crew, trained pilots etc. I seem to recall reading that for an existing RAF pilot to be cross-trained to a new type of (similar) aircraft takes around a year. I'm sure the discussion is symbolic in term of providing western aircraft to Ukraine; it's just not feasible unless we assume there's another 2-3 years to run on the war and that Ukraine can wait a year or more for aircraft to be operational.

    The real push would be for the US support Poland in return for the Polish airforce to give their Mig29 and SU22 to Ukraine in return for more F16, early delivery of their already purchased F35 and getting South Korea to deliver their ordered planes early too.

    That doesn't fix any shortage of pilots but the utility of supporting the aircraft is already there in some form.

  • Or we could send our Tranche 1 Typhoons,which have loads of life left, to Poland and they could send their updated MiG29s to Ukraine.
    Then when this is all over the USA and Germany can have an unseemly row over who re-arms Ukraine.

    (Or send the Typhoons to Sweden in return for Gryphons)

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