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  • it doesn't necessarily have to come from a place of gender violence, misogyny or other societal toxicity....it could have been something else or a combination.

    True, but also undeniably true (because the statistics are there) that it's much more common for men suffering a personal crisis to take the rest of their family with them when they kill themselves.

    I restrained myself from posting in this thread when the news broke, because there didn't seem much point in just saying "I hope this isn't what it usually is." But that's what it usually is.

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