Owning your own home

Our UFH is electric, but we do have heating pipes channeled in the extension’s concrete floor. No increase to floor height.

Any builder will do it.

Massive variations for rates. You probably need a certified electrician to provide a new circuit, test and certify for building regs. Big ballpark £100 ph, sounds ridiculous as a day rate though. Armoured cable is not cheap either.

Also worth remembering that it's winter (so less pleasant to be outdoors) and there are also a lot of people getting ev chargers installed so the people who can handle this type of job are in demand right now.

This channel talks about pricing more than most. The second video he has a spreadsheet of prices to compare. Comments will give you an idea of what people think too. There is a big spread right now on prices though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGsswbZKkk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXUF1SKIaJ0&t=906s

Thanks. They've told me it doesn't need to be buried so can't be that. It was c.£1,150 for fittings in the room itself, new consumer unit in there - it's an extra £1.3k to get the power line down to the room from the house, add a WiFi cable and one outside socket. It will be a reasonably difficult fitting I think but this still seems high to me - just trying to work out if there is a standard day rate for labour so I can see how long it takes to work out if it's high, or what

You wouldn't get the planning to chop it into flats. The aspirational end value is clearly over 2m if that's the asking but they're pissing in the wind imo (one done up ok but has lots of bedroom and it's slightly odd is for sale in the same road for 2.4m I think at the moment).

At the moment I'd say that house is worth a maximum, in this market, of about 1.7/1.8m, fully done.

Try this guy - his prices were actually incredibly reasonable when I needed a new consumer unit in the basement and a test certificate for an extension.

He charged me 400 quid labour for the lot - everyone else wanted 700 just for installation of the consumer unit.

Henry Nartey
Director

Tel/Fax: 016 8984 1811
Mobile: 079 3269 1264

Address: 15 Heneage Crescent, Croydon, CR0 0NX

Email: kinghenryelectrics@gmail.com

Web: http://www.kinghenryelectrics.com

I can’t see it makes sense to channel underfloor heating pipes, the bits you leave between channels will be tiny.

It’ll be easier and cheaper to take up the whole screed.

Plus for underfloor to work efficiently you’ll probably need to add insulation under the screed anyway, unless the room you’re doing is new enough to have it anyway.

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Run is reasonably long (25m) but they say it doesn't need to be buried and will fix to the fence.

£300 a day would make it hard to see how we get to the c.£2.5k total. If they'd said "this is the day rate and I estimate X days + Y for labour" I'd be happier as I'd be able to judge

ly need a certified electrician to provide a new circuit, test and certify for building regs. Big ballpark £100 ph, sounds ridiculous as a day rate though. Armoured cable is not cheap either.

Also worth remembering that it's winter (so less pleasant to be outdoors) and there are also a lot of people getting ev chargers installed so the people who can handle this type of job are in demand right now.

Whats a WiFi cable? I'm hoping thats not what the electrician is selling...

Ta - will give him a call. It's a slightly difficult situation as the electrician came and did some work in the room before quoting for the exterior wiring so I will have to work out how to divide it between them...

Ha no that's me - I've asked him to run an ethernet cable to the room too (I do know what they're called when I think about it)

Whats a WiFi cable?

5GHz wave guide? Bit of IEC R48 should do nicely sir.

IEC R48

R48 is about £100pm isn't it? :D

So for getting power and internet connection 25m, they quoted £1,300? TBH that doesn't seem hugely unreasonable if you're paying£1100 for internal fittings in the room itself.
It might take half a day to get cable from a consumer unit at the front of house to the rear with minimum destruction of your interior.
10mm SWA is like 5-8 £ per metre, then armoured cat6?
It quickly adds up.

Armoured cat6 i have (it was a lot cheaper than that - more like £1 per metre?) but otherwise that’s helpful - we agreed when he was round looking at the house that getting out of the house without disruption would be the hardest part.

Good to hear a view that it might not be too bad - I’ve negotiated a bit of a discount on the first quote so may end up going ahead (not least as they’ve already done some of the work). The cost for fittings in the room is for wiring, consumer unit, plugs, connection to UFH etc - it’s not just fancy fittings!

Two 40k kitchen sockets? 😂

It's not my money, but if I felt he'd take the care not to trash the house to get it done easily and was happy with work already done, I'd happily pay for the peace of mind and just go with him.

I paid ~1200 for:

• Connecting armoured cable to house CU (I had labourers dig the 20m trench, for ~300) via T&E that I ran myself.
  
• New CU in the garden room
  
• 2 ring mains, ~4 sockets each
  
• 3 lighting circuits, ~4 lights, 2 switches each
  
• testing & certification
  
  

The cable runs in the office were done on the exterior OSB, after battening, but before cladding.

Fucked if I can find anyone to run, terminate & test the cat6 though, which is currently probably damages somewhere & making speeds really slow.

That is cheaper than mine will be, but i think mine is more involved from the sounds of things - i also have UFH to add, a spur out of the office supply to power a pond pump and a new outdoor plug socket - but helpful comparison as well, cheers!

I missed out the 2 fused spurs - one to the UFH, one to the aircon. And the 2 exterior socket (though they are on the shed ring).

Sorry - I'm making this sound competitive now.

Argh they were the bits I was using to justify in my head why mine was OK!

Can yours be in 2015 or something please?

First fix late 2021, second fix mid 2022, I'm afraid.

I don't want to know how much 25m worth of of wave guides would cost.
I'll ask my partner who works in the space industry...

Hes a tit that guy, how he's got 180k followers on YouTube is beggars belief.

Hes a tit that guy, how he's got 180k followers on YouTube is beggars belief.

I wanna know more...

I wasn't thinking of making a profit in terms of buying it to flip, more that you'd possibly be living in a house that in the long term came to be worth more than you'd put into it, and feeling like you'd got a good deal and done it to your taste. It's definitely not a short-term investment, but perhaps it's not really a long term one anyway.

I hear the hottest location is now "Aldersbrook South" or "Wanstead Borders", which is the area near Plashet Park and East Ham tube station.

Keep an eye out for houses there and please do what you can to help create a buzz.

Striking whilst the iron is hot then eh?! How's it gonna work with buying and selling for you - would you be prepared to go into temporary/ rented?