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  • New Trek looks like yeah, half way to an urban arrow family, but the weight, 75kg bare? That can't be right. Even the UA family is only just over 50kg bare and thats a tank.

    Seat design/ upside down bike helmet box is a useful thing for most families for sure. Not great for other cargo use, but for those folk wanting a plug and play long john bike might be a good contender. Envilio heavy duty good to see, lots of folk like these CVT hubs, just wish they lasted a big longer, hopefully HD + commercial versions with a belt drive will make them into the ideal go to drivetrain of choice for hard working cargo's.

  • This seems to be common trend with a lot of the more recent new-comers to the market. They're almost so heavy as to make them completely reliant on the motor-assist, whereas the Bullit is one of the lightest out there and, I imagine, not too heavy to pedal unassisted.

  • Yup. I mean TBF most users are going to turbo mode all the time, its only us lot on here that want to actually pedal our own bikes along.

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