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• #3127
In 1935 he spent four times the annual average salary on booze alone.
His MP salary would typically only cover 70% of his annual booze bill.
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• #3128
600-odd bottles of booze!
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• #3129
There are historians who legit argue that he was not an alcoholic. I shit you not.
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• #3130
Even taking into consideration that there are half bottles of champagne, it's still 534…
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• #3131
Hold my beer, oh, er
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• #3132
Yup. No objective criticism of Churchill allowed in quite a few circles.
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• #3133
Surely a true patriot would have drunk more (London) gin?
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• #3134
Why do I try to listen to PMQs every week?! I'm just left absolutely seething.
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• #3135
Churchill as a idyllic war time prime minister hero figure has over shadowed all his numerous short coming before and after.
He's almost become mythical.
He was a product of empire and held many grotesque view of the empires 'subjects' and even disagreed against democracy itself.
He was never able to get over the fact he was ousted so quickly after WW2 which he saw as a stab in the back by british public. He's opinion on working class british were incredibly ungrateful. -
• #3136
Ten + years ago Braverman's rhetoric would have been sat on the edge of a Question Time panel getting laughed at by the audience.
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• #3137
I know, not even attempting to answer the question, all whataboutery and the usual bingo of “Corbyn”, “union bosses” and, albeit it later, “world leading”.
Absolute bollocks but I still listen
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• #3138
To get an idea of Churchill's annual alcohol consumption, here's what
he ordered in 1908, the year he married Clementine
He probably had guests over a couple of nights at least.
Anyway, he was a snobbish, bigoted, cruel, murderous, racist twat who made some terrible decisions, but he was quite witty and made a few rousing speeches while we were waiting for the Americans, so, history's greatest Englishman.
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• #3139
On the upside, his country house makes an excellent café stop on a Kent ride 👍
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• #3140
The letters his family and friends exchanged worrying that he might convert to Islam are wild.
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• #3141
We agree about vermouth, only tried it for the first time last year, yum. otherwise, evil bastard
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• #3142
There was always a group of upper classes that like Churchill where groomed to administrate and run parts of the empire that adopted customs of locals to gain trust but mostly power and influence. This happened very frequently in india. Lawrence of Arabia was a famous example in the middle east, but others like stjohn philby converted as well and was almost certainly an agent and involved in all sorts of skullduggery, the politically consequences of which still reverberate today.
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• #3143
Average of 1.5 per day. What a role model!
Now you put it like that, it doesn't seem that bad.
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• #3144
Maybe he’s in some parallel universe
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• #3145
Its the alcohol equivalent of 7.2 pints of Stella 365 days a year
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• #3146
its going well if your a disaster capitalist.
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• #3147
Yep
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• #3148
but not great even for JRM
https://www.ft.com/content/b1f1ee82-ec02-43b3-b317-9d77df759d88 -
• #3149
Spot on. Otto English's chapter on his mythology in Fake History is pretty eye opening.
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• #3150
“rebalancing the UK as a global economy”
wtf does that mean?
It’s total weirdowank
And he looks like he’s been at the Stella as well
Maybe, what, three pints in?
I feel positively abstemious lol