• That whole bike is clearly a Jan Heine fever dream. The build is contrived

    A middle finger to the throwaway culture we live in today.

    It's the opposite of that, you're just mass-producing junk that is outdated before it even leaves the factory. There's millions of old 4130 MTB frames out there, you don't need to waste a bunch of new tubes and energy on a brand new £700 frameset when you can find the same thing in any shed in the country. If you care about throw-away culture then how can you possibly justify spending £700 on this thing, when you could spend £20 in a bike coop for the same thing and donate the remaining £680 for them to spend on recycling other stuff?

    What's next? Maybe I could go and spend £1500 on a brand new CRT TV to combat throw-away culture? Or we could start building new diesel cars to combat throwaway culture?

    I can understand bikes like this being made in small quantities for specific customers but this is definitely not combating throw-away culture, it's just consumerism in a different hat

  • A lot of fair points but I wouldn't say it's outdated. I built a bike with specs similar to that Mr Wodden on purpose because I wanted something that is really simple but functional. I used an old frame from somebodies shed for it but even with a lot of used parts on there I can't honestly say that I did it to go against the throw-away culture but rather because I wanted something crust-like.
    The bottom line is if this frame set came out 2 years ago I most probably would have bought one because it ticks a lot of the boxes of what I was after.
    I own a few really cool bikes (in my humble opinion) and even though a big chunk of parts and frames of them are used I mainly own them because I wanted them not necessarily needed them. So I always try to not fool myself. What I am doing is consumerism. Doesn't matter that my poor man's Raleigh Crust frame is 30 years old.

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