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Nailed it
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i think you could count the number of people outside of rural france with a 650b rim brake wheelset kicking about waiting for a new frame on one hand
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But Jan would've built in Kasei, because lateral planing or other mystik qualitys of certain steele
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Yep.
If they were enticing people away from their cars then sure, great, but it's going to be bike nerds buying n+1 for this kind of thing.
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A lot of fair points but I wouldn't say it's outdated. I built a bike with specs similar to that Mr Wodden on purpose because I wanted something that is really simple but functional. I used an old frame from somebodies shed for it but even with a lot of used parts on there I can't honestly say that I did it to go against the throw-away culture but rather because I wanted something crust-like.
The bottom line is if this frame set came out 2 years ago I most probably would have bought one because it ticks a lot of the boxes of what I was after.
I own a few really cool bikes (in my humble opinion) and even though a big chunk of parts and frames of them are used I mainly own them because I wanted them not necessarily needed them. So I always try to not fool myself. What I am doing is consumerism. Doesn't matter that my poor man's Raleigh Crust frame is 30 years old. -
With regards to the Brother Mr Wooden chat a few pages back:
I like it, don't mind the colour, 650b rim brake, 4130, headtube is fine (1 1/8 or quill, not arsed).
I'd ride one without a worry, looks like a 650b Cross Check, I'm cool with that.
It's a niche frameset, not particularly mass produced, don't think Brother are one of the big boys, so they'll have low order quantities, obviously hiking the price, comparable with how Crust, Riv, All City, Soma et al operate.
I do get the point about the marketing blurb though, but marketing department gotta earn their coin somehow.
I'm a bit retrogrouchy with regards to my bicycle tendencies, so good on em I say. -
That whole bike is clearly a Jan Heine fever dream. The build is contrived
A middle finger to the throwaway culture we live in today.
It's the opposite of that, you're just mass-producing junk that is outdated before it even leaves the factory.
Agreed. And the fork is ugly. But do proper low trail fork, add disc brakes, thru axles and and modern swappable dropouts and my opinion changes.
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That whole bike is clearly a Jan Heine fever dream. The build is contrived
It's the opposite of that, you're just mass-producing junk that is outdated before it even leaves the factory. There's millions of old 4130 MTB frames out there, you don't need to waste a bunch of new tubes and energy on a brand new £700 frameset when you can find the same thing in any shed in the country. If you care about throw-away culture then how can you possibly justify spending £700 on this thing, when you could spend £20 in a bike coop for the same thing and donate the remaining £680 for them to spend on recycling other stuff?
What's next? Maybe I could go and spend £1500 on a brand new CRT TV to combat throw-away culture? Or we could start building new diesel cars to combat throwaway culture?
I can understand bikes like this being made in small quantities for specific customers but this is definitely not combating throw-away culture, it's just consumerism in a different hat