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  • You could move a person back and forth hundreds of years and they would get along in the world pretty well.

    Almost like it was a sustainable, albeit very different, way of living?

    The time we live in now is pretty special, you just have to look at graphs of life expectancy, pollution, population, industrial output etc.

    Only one and a bit of those 4 measures are a positive kind of special though?

    If you look at a large enough time frame then of course nothing matters

    Agreed.

  • Almost like it was a sustainable, albeit very different, way of living?

    Nasty, brutish and short, I believe

  • As it is for most other animals on this planet, and still is for a chunk of humanity living in what we call "the developing world"?

    I guess back then folks didn't hope/expect to retire in comfort and live to 90+, so didn't suffer fomo about it either.

  • Hobbes' position is not based on a scientific or historically-informed view of early history - it's a fabricated history developed for the polemic purpose of his argument in Leviathan. The same is true of Rousseau's.

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